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Old 06-11-2015, 11:26 AM   #15
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Time to trade the first generation Tundra for a second generation Tundra-
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Old 06-11-2015, 11:27 AM   #16
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Our 2006 Tundra had the 4.7 V8 with the larger tow ratings. Shifting down to climb and descend hills is part of towing a large trailer, we do the same with our 2012 Ram 1500 5.7 Hemi. It's faster the the 4.7 Tundra, but the driving technique is the same.

The third important element in safe and comfortable towing is the weight distribution/sway control hitch. Get a quality hitch that is capable of your truck and trailer, and it must be set up properly for good results.

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Old 06-11-2015, 11:31 AM   #17
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Time to trade the first generation Tundra for a second generation Tundra-
Yes I would agree, it would do everything better with either a 23' or 25' Airstream and make your trips much more pleasant.

You will still need a quality hitch and setup.

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Old 06-11-2015, 12:12 PM   #18
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We have narrowed down our choices. I believe we would be most comfortable in the 25' twin which comes in at about 5500#. Our 2000 Toyota Tundra (first year for the Tundra) has a max gross trailer weight rating of 7100#. The dealer is advising us to go with the 23' which is about 4800#. I would really prefer the 25' twin configuration, but don't want to catch the engine on fire, blow out all the tires simultaneously (because a kitten will die), and end up on the side of the road wishing we'd gotten the 23' instead. What would you do?

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I'm pulling a 6000#gross wt. (avg. wt. 5400#), Hi-Lo with a 2007 4-Runner 6 cyl. for the last six years; no problems, no issues, drove from Nova Scotia, back through the Vermont hills; no problem.
Go for it, and get the AS that you want.
(FYI: I just put an order in for an AS Flying Cloud, 25'. from Can-Am.)
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Old 06-11-2015, 12:20 PM   #19
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The PO of our 1973 Overlander pulled it all over the western U.S. with the first generation Tundra. I questioned him about it and he said if anything, a steep grade would slow him down a little, but otherwise he was comfortable pulling it with his Tundra. He upgraded to a newer 25 foot after he sold us the Overlander.
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Old 06-11-2015, 12:24 PM   #20
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Regarding "I-40 through the Smokies," technically it doesn't go through the Great Smoky Mountains National Park (U.S. 441 is the only east-west route through the Smokies), but the section of I-40 from about 20 miles west of Asheville to a little past the Tennessee line, while beautiful, is one of the scariest pieces of interstate I've ever driven, even in a car.

The reason is that the road had to be cut through mountain terrain, and to control costs they kept the roadbed as narrow as possible. One result is that there are frequent rockslides, and it was just a couple of years ago that this section of I-40 was closed for months to remove literally part of a mountain of rocks and then rebuild. The other is that there is no real median between the two sets of lanes, just a low concrete wall.

So here you are driving on a curvy, mountaineous interstate between narrow shoulder and a concrete median. What makes it worse is that this section is heavily used by tractor-trailers so many times you're squeezed between a long row of big rigs and a concrete wall.

I get anxious driving it even in a car, and I'm an Asheville native used to curvy mountain roads. It's potentially a really scary experience pulling a new trailer, especially if it's raining (or snowing in winter.) I avoid this part of I-40 whenever I can and agree that if possible that would be a good plan for you towing your new Airstream.
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Old 06-11-2015, 12:26 PM   #21
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No doubt you would be more comfortable with a larger, newer TV but remember..,they use to tow Travel trailers with station wagons
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Old 06-11-2015, 12:39 PM   #22
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I would go with the 25' twin. We bought a 2014 FC 23D and traded it in on a 2015 International a few months later. We are very happy with the 2015 25 International and like the extra room inside and the extra storage on the outside.
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Old 06-11-2015, 01:03 PM   #23
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Lots of owners pull 25 ft AS with a lot less than your Tundra. You may want to upgrade or add transmission cooling. Our 11 year old 4.7 Mitubishi engine with 3.53 rear end does just fine except for the 6 and 7 % grades. But as Mike says get the rpms up into the peak torque range. On my truck the tranny refuses to run in 3rd gear so I am often at 4000 - 4500 rpm on a long up hill. The truck is a multipurpose vehicle so we live with the weaknesses. The Tranny is in perfect shape at 200,000 Km. I Assume you have 4 wheel disc brakes so reserve stopping power will not likely be an issue.

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Old 06-11-2015, 04:00 PM   #24
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The Tundra is a 4.7 V8 w/4 wheel drive. When looking at the engine info it seems to make a big difference in whether it is a 5VZ-FE or 2UZ-FE. The manual says the Access cab, 4wd, auto trans, 5VZ-FE engine has a gross trailer weight of 4900#. But the same with the 2UZ-FE engine has a gross trailer weight of 7100#. Ours is the 2UZ-FE engine. McDave, ckottum, do you know if your engines have this designation? I don't know what it means other than it has them both listed and gives different trailer weights.
The Tundra is gone now, but on the paperwork I kept it states that the engine is a "4.6L DOHC 32V I-Force V8 with Dual Independent VVT-i310HP/327 lb-ft." I remember having the Tundra's towing capacity checked out when I was considering which trailer to buy, and found that the allowable gross trailer weight was about 7,000#, which was in excess of the gross weight rating of 6,000# for the 23' AS that I bought. I'm not sure if they still had the dual weight ratings you mentioned in 2011, as that question didn't come up.

There was no real reason why I traded in the Tundra when I did, as it was still performing adequately, but it was one of the rare times that the stars were aligned and my wife and I agreed on something without a lot of discussion about it. I guess we both like traveling with the trailer, and as we're not going to get any younger, we might as well do it in style. I really didn't want to wait for her to have any second thoughts about it!
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Old 06-11-2015, 06:15 PM   #25
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The current 4.6 engine has more horsepower and torque that he previous 4.7 engine.
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Our 4.7 is 235 HP; 240 Ft Lbs Torque. I've always coveted anything with 310/327!
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Old 06-11-2015, 06:32 PM   #27
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I just did my first trip in my new 2012 FC 25 rear bed with my 5.3 Chevy. Have had my 1998 19' Bambi since new. I bought the 25 from a guy who towed it with a Thndra 4.8. He said he had no problem with it. I had some concern because I like to go to the mountains.
I just spent a month in New Mexico a pulled it over some 6% grades. Not long up hill pulls but no problems.
You will have 1'000# of water if you drive with the tanks loaded! I only do long drives with about 20 gals of fresh water.
My view is if you are like me you will have the AS longer than the truck. Get the AS you like! You can up grade you truck rear end $1,000+ to get more tow power or change truck later. Read what Andy with CanAm Airstream says
You will love the Airstream life style is. I still have the Bambi after 17 years
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Old 06-11-2015, 08:21 PM   #28
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Our 4.7 is 235 HP; 240 Ft Lbs Torque. I've always coveted anything with 310/327!
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The 5.7 iForce is 381 horsepower and 401 ft. lbs. of torque-
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