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Old 10-15-2017, 11:50 AM   #1
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I try hard to be polite and safe behind the wheel, not subjecting others to what I donít want to be subjected to.

As a result, rude people tend to kinda piss me off on the road. It gets worse and worse, what happened to manners and common etiquette?
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Totally agree.
Everyone out there just wants to get to his/her destination safely.

I've always tried to be especially polite to truckers since I know they have a hard time dealing with the idiots cutting them off, pulling out in front etc.
But now that I have a pretty big rig myself, it's really obvious how bad it really is out there.

Bottom line - Be nice - Be safe - Arrive alive.
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Agreed. I like to think I am a courteous driver whether towing or not. (and I hope others think so!)

Perhaps what we are seeing is the result of people living a more stressful life these
days - especially those who are not retired as many of us are, and maybe have more worries to contend with.

It is amazing to watch people switching back and forth from lane to lane (often with no signals) in an attempt to gain a few feet.

Also what is strange when yoi do signal a lane change - perhaps to get in position for an upcoming exit - to notice people in the lane you wish to move to obviously speeding up in an effort to prevent your lane change. What causes people to feel the need to do this rather than to help?
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Agreed. I like to think I am a courteous driver whether towing or not. (and I hope others think so!)

Perhaps what we are seeing is the result of people living a more stressful life these
days - especially those who are not retired as many of us are, and maybe have more worries to contend with.

It is amazing to watch people switching back and forth from lane to lane (often with no signals) in an attempt to gain a few feet.

Also what is strange when yoi do signal a lane change - perhaps to get in position for an upcoming exit - to notice people in the lane you wish to move to obviously speeding up in an effort to prevent your lane change. What causes people to feel the need to do this rather than to help?


Lol! Right?

Its crazy. Coming through Dallas yesterday was like watching angry ants. Itís madness. Every third vehicle has collision damage of some kind. I imagine insurance rates are atrocious there.

A few trips back I was driving in the second lane from the right when a little yellow car two or three lanes to my left decided to exit, cut across all of the lanes and stopped right in front of me because the exit lane was backed up. (We were traveling freeway speed).

Not knowing if I could stop or not, I moved left as far as I could without hitting the person to my left. Well, that really pissed the person to my left off.... lol I think he wanted to fight me, even as the little yellow car was still stopped in my lane 10 feet ahead of me.

Beer is good, and people are crazy.
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Everyone out there just wants to get to his/her destination safely.
Unfortunately, too many people just want to get to their destination quickly, and mistake being lucky for being safe. As in, "I can safely follow 3 feet behind the guy in front of me at 10 miles over the speed limit in order to intimidate him into getting out of my way because I'm a safe driver." No, he's not. His lack of safety just hasn't caught up with him yet.

Defensive driving consists of giving idiot drivers the right of way whether they deserve it or not, so that they never learn the hard way that they're idiot drivers.

One thing said by science fiction author Robert Heinlein, in the voice of his recurring character, Lazarus Long, that seems to apply to too many drivers today: "The price of stupidity varies from nothing to death, and is determined entirely at random."
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It can be nuts out there for sure. I am amazed how some of these people have survived this long with their driving attitudes. I try my best just to smile and let it roll on by. I'm sure grateful that I don't have whatever it is that they have in their heads that makes them such turds on the road.
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Unfortunately, too many people just want to get to their destination quickly, and mistake being lucky for being safe. As in, "I can safely follow 3 feet behind the guy in front of me at 10 miles over the speed limit in order to intimidate him into getting out of my way because I'm a safe driver." No, he's not. His lack of safety just hasn't caught up with him yet.

Defensive driving consists of giving idiot drivers the right of way whether they deserve it or not, so that they never learn the hard way that they're idiot drivers.

One thing said by science fiction author Robert Heinlein, in the voice of his recurring character, Lazarus Long, that seems to apply to too many drivers today: "The price of stupidity varies from nothing to death, and is determined entirely at random."


Yesterday I saw a lady pulling a horse trailer move right one lane on the interstate, she obviously didnít see the small car that was in the lane next to the back of the trailer as she made the slow lane change.

What amazed me was that the small carís driver did not brake or slow down to avoid the hazard, he/she moved into the right shoulder and accelerated. Madness.

It seems people would rather be killed or injured as to give homage to common sense.
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It is amazing to watch people switching back and forth from lane to lane (often with no signals) in an attempt to gain a few feet.
Often with no signals?
I rarely see ANY signal and if I do, it's not a "signal", which is supposed to tell other drivers what you're going to do, not what you are doing, or have done. I see drivers put on their signal when they have already entered my lane with 2 wheels. (I pretty much figured it out already .) Then there's the drivers that signal when they are already at the intersection. It would have been nice to know what they were going to do before they got there, which is the point of a signal.

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Also what is strange when yoi do signal a lane change - perhaps to get in position for an upcoming exit - to notice people in the lane you wish to move to obviously speeding up in an effort to prevent your lane change. What causes people to feel the need to do this rather than to help?
When I'm driving along and I see a driver coming up on my side and there's an obstruction ahead (lane ending, upcoming exit they want to use, etc.), I know they are going to try and jump in front of me at the last second. Today one was running on my right in the upcoming Interstate exit ramp, passing signs for 2 miles saying the right lane was for exiting to the other Interstate. Nothing behind me, nothing on my left, slower traffic in front of me. I knew he was going to jump in front of me and he did, crossing the Y median separating my lane and the exit ramp, spewing rocks behind him. He had room and time to come in behind me, go around to my left, but he didn't. He endangered both of us.

I normally keep a good, safe distance from traffic in front of me, but if I see someone like that coming up on my side, I have no problem speeding up just enough to make sure he/she cannot jump into my safety zone at the last second before they run out of road. If they have time/room, OK, not a problem, they can go ahead. But if I think I'm at risk, then yes, I will speed up because there is not going to be time to safely slow down.

I let plenty of people go ahead, especially if they put on a signal to let me know they want to come over.
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I think driving behavior is just an additional facet of the general lack of common courtesy that has become commonplace in today's life. I don't think they're just in a hurry, I think they think they are more important than everyone else, are bulletproof, and have no regard for others.

Interestingly enough, this attitude seems more prevalent in some places and less in others. My observation is the farther you get from the metropolitan areas and suburbs, the less common it is and courtesy and respect is more typical.

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We were merging (left merge) in Connecticut behind another RV this summer. A guy in a red pickup was angry because that RV was having trouble getting over so he pulled in front of them, stopped and opened his door. That's when I bought my dashcam. Idiots like that are why I commute in a one ton truck.

Signalling is good but it takes more than blinker use to be a good driver. Lots of people use their blinker as an apology.
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I think driving behavior is just an additional facet of the general lack of common courtesy that has become commonplace in today's life.
You hit the nail on the head. Americans have adopted "I want mine, and to hell with everyone else" mentality
It's not only driving, it's everything; the entitlement mentality.
The day I left Florida ahead of Irma, I was driving up I-75, on cruise control at 69 mph, in the center lane. A 20 yr old Monoco motor home comes up on my right, and instead of passing, swerves behind me and stays 3' off my bumper for a couple minutes. Then he swerves back right, passes me on the right and blows his horn and flips me the bird. I still have no idea what his perceived grievance was. Maybe someone in a white pickup cut him off and he assumed it was me.
Having driven a motorhome for years, I know how fragile the front is and how hard it is to stop, so tailgating anyone is asking for disaster. Idiots.
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Personally I always wondered why people who speed and run red lights get so mad about someone not using their blinker. And also wonder exactly what is accomplished by not letting someone in when the lane ends. I choose not to play Russian Roulette with others' tempers. License plates are in plain view and it's way too easy to get more than you bargained for. My front and rear cameras are always on.
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Personally I always wondered why people who speed and run red lights get so mad about someone not using their blinker.
All part of the "do unto others before they do unto you" mentality, I suppose.

In my experience, no one gets angrier on the road than someone who wants to break a traffic law but can't because someone else is in the way.
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I spent a few weeks this summer in Coeur d'Alene. The acceleration lanes to enter the interstatet on I-90 are extremely short. If you are on the interstate in the right lane it seems a lot of drivers assume you are going to slow down or move to the left lane to let them in. If I can, I willingly will do so, but, in circumstances where it would not be safe to slow down (because of the big rig on your bumper) or move to the left lane because you are blocked in, or both, some entering traffic get pissed. Also, in this section of I-90 the acceleration lane for entering traffic and the exit lane for the upcoming exit are the same thing leaving you no choice but to use the right lane. Bad design!

I have a 34' triple axle Airstream. Add my tow vehicle and I have a total length of over 50 feet. I do not tow slow, but seldom above 65 mph. A following vehicle just sees the back of my AS. Often they seem to assume it is a shorter trailer and attempt passing. I slow down to let them by but sometimes run out of passing lane. Their gesticulations are probably a combination of abject fear immediately followed by rage.

I am thinking about a warning decal on the left rear of my Airstream so they know I am towing long, long trailer.
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