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Old 07-16-2014, 01:48 PM   #281
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I bet I have a couple a few vehicles I could start in the event of an EMP....
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Old 07-17-2014, 02:25 AM   #282
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Last time I checked, no computer stuff inside plugs, points and a condenser. The coil windings might get toasted or the starter windings depending on how close the vehicle was to ground zero. But then the radiation would make the the vehicle one really "hot" car.
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Old 07-17-2014, 06:44 AM   #283
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RunawaybToyotas could still be slipped into neutral. Most of today's drivers do not know this. A blown engine is better than getting killed. Jim
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And EMP is sooooo rare that it isn't even worth consideration. In all my years, I've only been involved with 2 vehicles in which EMP was suspected as a cause of malfunction.
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Old 07-17-2014, 07:41 AM   #285
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And EMP is sooooo rare that it isn't even worth consideration. In all my years, I've only been involved with 2 vehicles in which EMP was suspected as a cause of malfunction.
Teaser! You have me curious, Please tell the story.
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Old 07-17-2014, 07:56 AM   #287
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First, know that for decades (since processors were first put in cars in early 80's...and maybe before that) all components and vehicles are tested in electrically "dirty" rooms where they are bombarded with every kind of emission known to man...including those thrown out by the sun. Proper areas are shielded and all is good.

Rarely, apparently, either a failure in shielding or an odd combination of signals can cause issues.

I had a vehicle in the late 80's that would stall ONLY in the same location (that's the other telling sign of suspicion of EMP) and it was repeatable fairly consistently. It's been a long time, but I do remember there was a substation, a radio station...and something else close by, but I don't remember what it was. We put a lot of additional shielding in the ECM harness and IIRC replace the ECM and the problem went away.

As I recall the other suspect vehicle was never verified to be an EMP issue, and I can't recall the details.
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'60 Thunderbird with sunroof gets more thumbs up than a vintage AS! However, it handles like a slug, brakes are OK and the mileage sucks! The improvement in cars over the past 54 years is awesome. Can't say the same for AS.


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Cars are improved in every area except style...
Yes, my new car accelerates, corners, and brakes, but the mileage is still terrible and the styling is very vanilla...
Will a '60 Thunderchik'n pull an Airstream?
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I never believed the hype about runaway Toyotas, but I took it in for 3 recalls after that-
1. They made sure the floor mat wasn't in the way
2. The changed the gas pedal return spring
3. the cut off the bottom of the gas pedal
I made up my mind if my Toyota ever attempted to run away I would hold the brake, shift into neutral or park, and shut off the engine. Any damage caused by that (engine, transmission, brakes) would be better than property damage or injury or death. My Toyota has never tried to run away...
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Fwiw, if you put a modern car in neutral and floor it, the engine will not run away into high RPM destruction, it will run up against the rev limiter which is often quite a bit less than red line when the car isn't in gear.

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I had a Chevy pickup truck run away once.

We suspect it ran away to Mexico and never came home.


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