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Old 11-25-2015, 03:44 PM   #113
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Nothing is difficult about hooking up the hoses and power cord, unless you are old, have arthritis, a bad back, and can't bend over very far. And then there is the hitching up, for us old guys, sometimes that is difficult.

So, some of us decide to switch to a motorhome.

Enjoy your youth while you have it.
I just leave my truck 'n' trailer coupled up all the time. I guess if that's how I'm gonna do it, I could have bought a motor home, but I already had the monster gas guzzling truck.
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Old 11-25-2015, 03:59 PM   #114
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If Airstream is going to have this new trailer come OUT in 2016 you can bet your booties that they'll be buying out another manufacturer or buying a "shell" from another manufacturer. It's a huge expense to set up a whole manufacturing line, and to make molds for fiberglass/thermoplastic or whatever. AND if the market is ... well meh...? Most of us know about the Basecamp. I think I saw three or four tucked away in a dark corner of the factory as late as 2012. Airstream doesn't want another "Edsel"

I'm betting they buy a shell from Oliver and custom out the badging and interior. They might even contract to have Oliver DO the interior. Why Oliver? Geography & Market Share (or lack thereof). Casita is made in Texas, Scamp in Backus Minnesota. Oliver is least known smallest market share and is closest to the Airstream mothership. Oliver JUST restarted production after the economic depression. It isn't the company's only product and is probably 2-3 years from profitability.

Why do I think Airstream will pay someone else to build it? Well almost 20 years ago there was a recall on refrigerators - almost 20 brands - ALL manufactured in one facility in Amana Iowa. That KILLED my waning loyalty to Brand Names. (Uncle Cal used to train dogs and caught Hell from his doctor for self treating an infection with veterinary penicillin - claimed it wasn't as safe or well tested human stuff. Then later found out that both came off the same manufacturing line.

Then there was the dog food recall, something poison that was imported from China - again 2 dozen brands made in the same factory.

This isn't the first time it's happened in the RV world. I have a later model Avion - one of the "family" of Fleetwoods though they killed it.

I could be wrong and they might also go to a big boat manufacturer - but if they're going to compete with themselves which a lot of brands DO... why not get in on the cheap so they can back out that way if it doesn't work out? They make money hand over fist without a bigger workforce if it succeeds; if it's a lead balloon like the Basecamp their losses are minimized.

I own an answering service with my partner - on at least three occasions in the past 10 years I've been approached by another owner who wants to have a business - but not have to deal with "all those damned operators and their drama" They generously (meh) offer me 70% of what they collect if my staff does the actual work. Walk into a store that's Baskin Robbins/Dunkin'Donuts.... both owned by the same corporate giant, and finally not trying to hide it any more.

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Old 11-25-2015, 04:40 PM   #115
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I suggest that Airstream hire Pragmatic Paula to advise them. Airstream Jackson Center probably followed this thread to discover that there might be some genuine information on this thread that was not considered in the lounge, somewhere and removed their promotion puffing.

Remember "New Coke".

Working at Pepsi Cola, my boss said the Two Liter plastic bottles would not work and explode on the shelves. At the same time this plastic bottle company was coaxing me to interview... as they thought they could squeeze some information out of me. Not too much later, two liter bottles for 89 cents were the norm.

Large companies, Sears, J. C. Penny, Montgomery Wards can lose their way with the executive staff that all think the same. Everything I wore in my youth was from one of these three retailers. Today... better prices and great quality... Costco.

The Airstream Interstate is a good example of using two factories that specialize to put together a great product.

Fiberglass... Corvettes are made of fiber glass. An aluminum skin would be lighter... much lighter. The finish can get fine cracks if not done well. The panels are "glued" together, sanded and is one solid body. Nothing like the smell of fiber glass curing... Fiber glass degrades into fine slivers on some products. Try pulling them out of your hand... I have, it was not pleasant at all. Corvette bodies in the Summer are flexible. During the Winter it will break apart in chunks in a mild collision.

Airstream may be wise to put ten of these together as loss leaders for testing, as it will cost double or more for a small run... and get some opinions from some on this thread. Paula gets my vote as she would be a bit more diplomatic.

If these are anything like automobiles. It might retail for $20,000 but the parts for repairs would bring its value up to $50,000 if still being made in China.
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Old 11-25-2015, 08:24 PM   #116
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Hmmm... pass.
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Old 11-25-2015, 08:31 PM   #117
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They get a little money in the pocket, then they want to be like Donald Trump.

Us old guys can tell you, stay lean, this will pass, stash it away and have a hell of a vacation when it all goes down.

Don't belive me? How'd that Basecamp work out?
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Old 11-25-2015, 08:55 PM   #118
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Someone who like the retro look would like that, I would think.

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Old 11-25-2015, 09:42 PM   #119
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The day we dragged home the Airstream we already had two Casitas.

Now if Airstream would build a 7'8" wide by 22' to 25' fiberglass trailer with a Casita Liberty Deluxe like layout or a '69 Tradewind layout. It could sell if the price was right.
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Old 11-25-2015, 11:25 PM   #120
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Is the Scout the new 'Airstream' ? It looks like an airstream version of a canned ham camper.

Canned Ham campers like Scotty are having a resurgence right now. They are small, light weight, almost anything can tow them. Some have those little mini air conditioners (that don't work in the south)....

I'd be curious to know more about airstreams take on the concept....
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Talking Carbon Fiber?

I wonder whether the new trailer will utilize carbon fiber in a one-piece top shell. It would be great to get rid of seams, though windows and roof fixtures would still be vulnerable to leaking.

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I wonder whether AS will do a truck camper. With a 4WD high clearance truck you can go just about anywhere. You can park more easily. You can tow a boat.... or.... erm...a trailer.
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Or maybe the Airstream dog shelter-- for the economy-minded pet owner?
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If that's what I wanted I'd buy a Shasta Airflyte.
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Old 11-26-2015, 06:14 AM   #126
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It is disconcerting, in my opinion, that Airstream would consider introducing a new economy product line, when the manufacturing quality control is so inconsistent (to use a polite term).

A better move might be to improve the quality level, across the board, and to raise prices!

You get what you pay for.

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Be careful what you wish for -- cheaper trailers will probably be just . . .
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