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09-09-2016, 08:01 AM
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#901
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Rivet Master
2017 28' Flying Cloud
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Basecamp
Received this from AS NW yesterday...
http://aanwbasecamp.com/
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09-09-2016, 09:26 AM
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#902
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Rivet Master
2014 31' Classic
2015 23' International
2013 25' FB International
Apache Junction
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There are Michelin tires in the same size for this new unit...
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09-09-2016, 02:19 PM
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#903
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Living Riveted since 2013
2016 Interstate Lounge Ext
Green Cove Springs
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Was wondering about this choice of tire, good to know you can get something else: Goodyear® ST255/55R18 Tires, Balanced. On the plus side, they do come balanced.
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09-13-2016, 06:42 AM
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#904
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Rivet Master
1978 Argosy Minuet 6.0 Metre
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So is that it? The new less expensive airstream is a redesigned Basecamp? I guess with all the hype I was expecting something totally new.
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09-13-2016, 07:39 AM
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Moderator
2015 25' FB Flying Cloud
2012 23' FB Flying Cloud
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Santa Rosa Beach
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Join Date: Jul 2006
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Quote:
Originally Posted by GeocamperAS
So is that it? The new less expensive airstream is a redesigned Basecamp? I guess with all the hype I was expecting something totally new.
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I agree. I was also expecting something totally new, not a ten year old trailer that has a new interior. I'm not saying that the New Base Camp is not a good idea. It is. With all the hype, I was excited about seeing something revolutionary. This is a little disappointing, to say the least.
Brian
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09-13-2016, 08:55 AM
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#906
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Living Riveted since 2013
2016 Interstate Lounge Ext
Green Cove Springs
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Join Date: Dec 2013
Posts: 8,210
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Basecamp update is very cool, no disappointment here, though of course spendy for the size, like all Airstreams so far.
What you're hoping for might be the Nest which they bought and are now "Airstreaming." Scheduled for next year?
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09-13-2016, 09:15 AM
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#907
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Rivet Master
2006 23' Safari SE
Biloxi
, Mississippi
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This is just the first of several new Airstreams coming out to be followed by a new MOHO and of course the Nest. No matter what Airstream does there are going to be people that are disappointed and loudly complain. While the Basecamp II is not my cup of tea I think it will appeal to many millennials that have to have the newest flashiest wizzbangs.
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09-13-2016, 10:11 AM
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#908
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Master of Universe
2008 25' Safari FB SE
Grand Junction
, Colorado
Join Date: Sep 2007
Posts: 12,711
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My impression is the new BC is a little bigger than the original one. Whether there is a market for this concept now is questionable. It was a nearly total failure years ago. Airstream president Bob Wheeler was behind the original BC. He also seems to have been behind the substitution of OSB for plywood and some weakening of the basic structure in some trailers, both changes resulting in big losses for the company. He survived these failures.
Not being close to being millennial, I have little idea what they want, but I read many do not even want cars and I suspect even more don't want something that could tow anything. I wonder if Airstream has done market research? Will it rob customers who were considering a Sport model? And have the Sport models sold well?
No matter what Airstream does there are going to be people that support it and loudly praise the company. Will they buy the new models?
Gene
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09-13-2016, 10:25 AM
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#909
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Rivet Master
2016 28' Pendleton
Currently Looking...
Scottsdale
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Hi from AZ. . . just an observation, but isn't Airstream competing with itself a lot with these 'small' trailers. ? Sport, Basecamp, Bambi, & new Nest (if it ever happens). . . seem a bit redundant to me.. . my dealer said they have already ordered 10 BC, but have a couple of unsold Sports sitting on their lot. . . it'll be interesting to see how this model line-up shakes out.. . . regards, Craig
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09-13-2016, 10:37 AM
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#910
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Rivet Master
2013 30' Classic
Greenwood
, Mississippi
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Believe it or not, not everyone likes the Classic iconic shape of an Airstream trailer. Some people actually think Airstreams are ugly.
What do you do to reach those customers?
Design something that looks different.
Maybe even a Sport 16 is still too much weigh, too wide, and too tall for some vehicles?
Maybe some people want their camper to fit into their garage?
Personally I like the style of an Airstream, but everybody ain't me.
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09-13-2016, 01:25 PM
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#911
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Rivet Master
2007 22' International CCD
Corona
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Believe it or not, but my 'millennial' son is the one that got the family into Airstreaming.
Sent from my pocket Internet using Airstream Forums
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09-13-2016, 07:45 PM
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#912
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Hoover
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What is the price tag?
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09-13-2016, 07:51 PM
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Quote:
Originally Posted by PharmGeek
What is the price tag?
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I read somewhere that the new Basecamp lists at around $35K.
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09-13-2016, 08:11 PM
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Rivet Master
2014 20' Flying Cloud
Sag Harbor
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The new Basecamp is being actively discussed in this newer thread FYI:
http://www.airforums.com/forums/f404...ng-156584.html
Post #39 has the first mention of price I believe.
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09-14-2016, 07:51 AM
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#915
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Rivet Master
2014 31' Classic
2015 23' International
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Loaded as the first ones will be with every option they are crowding the $40,000 mark. Forget the home garage at 8' 6.25" tall with the air conditioner.
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09-14-2016, 07:57 AM
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Catfish Corners
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I'm also waiting for the "less expensive" part.
You can buy a much nicer, better built camper, in many sizes and weights than the new Airstream stuff mentioned in this thread.
No offence to the Airstream fanatics out there (people like ME, in other words). But I'm waiting for something my kids can afford. Young families with a couple of kids that can't afford a second mortgage just to go camping.
So, let's see "less expensive", please...........
Jim
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09-14-2016, 08:03 AM
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Master of Universe
2008 25' Safari FB SE
Grand Junction
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Join Date: Sep 2007
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I doubt the company is concerned with those who can't afford Airstreams. They keep raising prices without much in the way of improvements. The only good thing about that is when it is time to sell ours, it will be worth more.
Gene
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09-14-2016, 11:33 AM
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Improvement
Quote:
Originally Posted by moosetags
I agree. I was also expecting something totally new, not a ten year old trailer that has a new interior. I'm not saying that the New Base Camp is not a good idea. It is. With all the hype, I was excited about seeing something revolutionary. This is a little disappointing, to say the least.
Brian
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Was it Airstream's hype or participants' hype on AirForums?
I'd like to read that quality control on Airstream models and components has improved. This might help to justify the prices.
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09-14-2016, 04:15 PM
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I'm thinking the less expensive Airstream is the nest that won't come out 'till next year.
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09-14-2016, 04:55 PM
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#920
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Rivet Master
2016 25' Flying Cloud
Jupiter
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Quote:
Originally Posted by explore more
I'm thinking the less expensive Airstream is the nest that won't come out 'till next year.
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2017 Sport: starting at $44,900
New Basecamp: starting at $34,900
That is less expensive. We'll see how the Nest is priced.
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