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Old 03-02-2016, 05:51 PM   #477
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LivinLite uses aluminium floor.

Its also owned by Thor.

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Old 03-02-2016, 06:08 PM   #478
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Evergreen Ever-Lite uses composite floor and walls.

I guess Oliver doesn't have plywood floors, but wouldn't bet a mortgage payment either way.


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Old 03-03-2016, 07:53 AM   #479
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Originally Posted by KJRitchie View Post
Can you list a few trailers that don't use a plywood floor? Kelvin

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Who owned Argosy when they were in business????
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Old 03-03-2016, 08:35 AM   #480
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The way manufacturing is going seems it will not be long before Airstream is the only maker stuck in the 40's still using plywood. Unless Airstream makes some big changes in their engineering, materials use and QC I will not be buying a new Airstream anytime soon. But then again I am fat, 65 this month and poor.

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Old 03-03-2016, 09:00 AM   #481
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Other than the few listed I don't think RV manufacturers will switch from plywood unless a composite floor comes in much cheaper and is easy to obtain.

The Evergreen Everlite series the shortest model that make is 27' 6". Their other models are much longer. Their other travel trailer series are built with traditional non composite.

If the plywood could be treated better that would be at least a step forward for Airstream.

I remember Azdel was going to be the future and would eliminate the ply luan but many of these manufacturers are getting there wood supplies from the far east now and its not being used much. I think Coachman uses Azdel in one of their lines.

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Old 03-03-2016, 09:13 AM   #482
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What does Hymer use for their floors? They seem to display the best manufacturing methods for mass produced trailers.
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Old 03-03-2016, 09:34 AM   #483
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Argosy was part of airstream.
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Old 03-03-2016, 09:49 AM   #484
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Gosh-- as folks who are (cough, ahem) "portly" and over 65, we're a bit taken aback by the notion of an annoyed fellow ASer awaiting our demise.

As mentioned many pages ago, the small light trailers are really cramped on the inside. Not for claustrophobics, plumpies, families, multiple-dog owners, or people who feel they deserve nicer design and elbow/head room.

Moreover, as people who had our share of AS malfunctions, we have to ask, compared to what? Anyone here ever owned a swimming pool, a boat, or (I dunno,) a small plane? Anyone ever had their best-laid travel plans screw up?

We try to go with the flow.... or the stream.
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Old 03-03-2016, 09:50 AM   #485
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They will probably decide that when their order backlog drops back to a reasonable level from the present and they can go back to two shifts at the factory. Notwithstanding the fact that they just raised prices.
Was the "two shifts" a tongue in cheek comment or has the manufacturing group changed the one shift strategy that they believe will limit mistakes?

When you pull into an RV park or pass a coach on the road, four RVs catch your eye .... the big bus, the little cutie, the one you are interested in, and the Airstream, always the AS. IMO, that is not going to change and AS is not going away as long as there is a market for RVs. Pat
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Old 03-03-2016, 11:52 AM   #486
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Common sense flies right out the window when it comes to purchasing an Airstream.
I am usually quite thrifty, tight, cheap-
All that is out the window when buying an Airstream.
I usually expect top performance for a reasonable dollar- Apple, Sony, Alpine, Toyota, etc.
My 2013 Airstream Classic 30 is the most expensive thing I have ever bought and had the most quality control issues.
Chalk it up to nostalgia, wanderlust, what have you...
That iconic shape...
I dreamed about owning an Airstream all my life.
I always thought Airstreams were the top of the line, highest quality RV's.
If this is the top of the food chain- if this is the best- I gotta wonder-
I certainly don't want to see the best- would be too expensive- or the worst- would be too shoddy.
Maybe the quality of Airstream is demonstrative of the entire RV industry- not much value- not much bang for the buck-
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Old 03-03-2016, 12:09 PM   #487
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Quality does not cost money. It saves mfg and warranty cost. It expands the market share with brand loyalty and perceived value. Specification upgrade does cost $$s. AS is missing the profit opportunity to sell them as option or special models. Maybe more of the Toyota mfg model will rub off over time and some of those Honda employees can be induced to come play with the shinny bits. Pat
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Yes, "shiny" would be more appropriate. Thanks for the poke in the ribs. Pat
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Old 03-03-2016, 01:54 PM   #490
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We don't have a problem with plywood floors nor quality issues. Our Airstream came from the factory without defects and everything still works, nothing has broken after 4 1/2 years 1200 nights camping. We check the floor perimeter every few months with a moisture detection meter, and if a there's a minor leak we fix it. We try to ensure a reasonably gentle ride for it by setting its tires pressures only was high as needed, and use a softly sprung tow vehicle without excessive load capacity.

I wouldn't care for aluminum or plastic floors in our house or Airstream, these are just fine if the trailer is inspected and maintained regularly.

Everything on the Airstream is repairable when something fails badly, and one of the few (if not only) brands worth the expense and effort.

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