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Old 01-13-2016, 09:52 AM   #267
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Nobody has mentioned the possibility of a unit made off shore (or Mexico) yet. Sailors here may remember that Yamaha had a line of sailboats in the seventies that were very innovative for the time. At one time, one of the largest sailboat manufacturers in the US explored the possibilities of building a line of boats in China. In as much as Gen-X'ers and millennials have no problems buying cars made in Korea, Japan, etc., the possibility of an offshore TT is not so far-fetched. If this were to happen, it also reinforces my theory that Thor continues to prostitute the Airstream brand.
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Old 01-13-2016, 10:12 AM   #268
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My curiosity is will it be assembled at Jackson Center, or another Thor facility and labeled as an Airstream to capitalize the iconic name. A fake.
Yep ...
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Old 01-13-2016, 10:20 AM   #269
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Hmmm, we looked at Oliver trailers and they convinced us to buy our Airstream. Not sure if was the plastic everything inside or the tiny peekaboo windows, but I don't think Airstream has much to learn from them.

Steel frames provide strength, aluminum shells long-term durability, and plywood floors are light, strong and flexible. Like anything, a decent routine inspection and maintenance program will ensure you have a sound camper to pass on to your grandchildren.

We can wish for a good, inexpensive Airstream and I think they were on track with the Sport models. The Sport is very good, they will last forever if cared for. Maybe that's as close as they will ever get.
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Old 01-13-2016, 10:43 AM   #270
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I think Airstream can learn from Oliver!
Storage, batteries, converter, Wi-Fi, etc...


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Old 01-13-2016, 11:10 AM   #271
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My trailer is 30 years old this year. It is not near as shiny as it was when the first owner picked it up. But, I still roll around the country some seven or eight thousand miles in it every year.

I don't need to plug it into my laptop to trouble shoot it. A medium size tool bag holds everything I need to fix anything that needs fixing. The systems are dead simple and remarkably rugged.

Personally, I like it that way. We have internet through our Verizon smartphone, I have satellite tv with my Directv receiver from home and my King Quest antenna. I have SiriusXM radio by popping the receiver out of the TV and into the trailer. All of which were easy to install, are easy to replace and, better still, easy to upgrade.

I can't think of any other RV that, when properly cared for, has anything remotely like the durability of an Airstream. Unless I hit the Powerball tonight, I plan another 20 years with my old, aluminum friend.

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Old 01-13-2016, 11:33 AM   #272
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Interesting specs on the Oliver Legacy Elite II. The first one is the overall width is 7'0" which is narrower that the narrowest Airstream , the 22 Bambi at 7' 3.5" while the other "narrow" body units are 8' wide and the wide body units (over 25') are 8' 5.5". The literature shows the Oliver unit as 9' 7"high to the top of the Satellite dish while Airstream is 9' 6" to the top of the Airconditioner.

The size is comparable to the 23D which has a literature empty weight of 4,761 pounds whereas the Oliver with two 20# tanks has a empty weight of 4,600 pounds. The huge difference is the payload of the Oliver with a 7,000 pound GVW is nearly 2,400 pounds where the airstream has a 6,000 pound GVW. The much lower Oliver tongue weight of around 420 pounds could make it towing friendly to much smaller tow vehicles than the 23D tongue weight of 720 pounds.

The base price of the 2016 23D International Serenity is close to $75,300. I wonder what the starting price of the Olive is? They have an extensive options list that might bring price parity to the Airstream. I was unable to get a live person at Oliver today.
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In ordered my Oliver Elite II with 16 options since I need cold weather dry camping. I plan to encourage my daughter, who works via the Internet, to use the Ollie. So she benefits from the high tech options. Even with all these options, I saved many thousands over the 23D. I understand now why it might appeal to younger campers.
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"A thing of beauty is a joy forever." - John Keats

After viewing both inside and outside, that was enough reason for us to choose Airstream over Oliver. Spec's and gadgets didn't matter.

I hope Airstream understands this in their new less expensive Airstream.
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Old 01-13-2016, 01:20 PM   #275
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"beauty is in the eye of the beholder".

I personally like Aluminium trailers, but it seems more than 99% of RVers prefer non-aluminum trailers.
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"beauty is in the eye of the beholder".

I personally like Aluminium trailers, but it seems more than 99% of RVers prefer non-aluminum trailers.

Both statements are true, but I think way more fiberglass trailers are sold because of the price advantages. In a beauty contest between white plastic and aluminum, a betting man would be wise to put his money on aluminum.
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That 99% must be the ones that stop by to tell us how nice our Airstream looks all the time. We would return the favor but they would know we were lying.
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"beauty is in the eye of the beholder".

I personally like Aluminium trailers, but it seems more than 99% of RVers prefer non-aluminum trailers.

...because 99% of RV'ers prefer to not pay $80,000 for a trailer...


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Actually, the metal corrugated siding on the very lowest priced trailers, easily 1/4-1/3 of all trailers, is aluminum...


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Old 01-13-2016, 07:44 PM   #280
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Well I still think that although it is true that Airstreams don't come cheaply, that their total cost of ownership over 10 years is not all that different than most SOB units.

Cost paid, vs residual value after 10 years is quite close to the cost paid for many SOB units with a (IMHO) residual value after 10 years of $0.

Your towing, storage, hitch, supplies, fees are going to be the same.
Your property tax with the AS may be higher.

But all in all, I would never buy an SOB at age 50 and expect to pass it down to my children. But our daughter already has claimed our AS when we are too old to roll! Hopefully she will be older than 50 by the time that day comes!
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