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Old 11-27-2015, 02:46 PM   #169
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Old joke, how could you tell a Harley (or VW bug) had been parked somewhere? You could tell by the grease puddle.
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Old 11-27-2015, 03:09 PM   #170
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BONDED Aluminum and endcaps of steel or fiberglass.

HOW many rivets on an ARGOSY? Lots fewer than on an Airstream.

"NEW AND IMPROVED" (English Translation - it's the same old thing recycled).

you know you're old when you go into an antique shop and start saying "I had one of those when I was a kid" over and over.
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Old 11-27-2015, 03:17 PM   #171
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One might have a light bulb go of in their head thinking about the trim lines in Airstream. The same skin panel is typically used on both the Flying cloud and the International series of the same size and floor plan. The same thoughts apply to the end caps.

So when looking at the Flying Cloud or the International Signature/Serenity, a valid question is where is that additional five or six thousand dollars difference? I would wager that since the cabinets are covered with laminate, the costs would be nearly identical. All the mechanical components are the same between the same floor plan. A small counter top does not cost that much more in Corian over Formica.

The factory has quite a few programmable machines to cut our the various cabinet parts from sheets of cabinet material with very little waste. At least the cabinet component pieces are uniform. If they are properly assembled and installed is another issue.

There is a lot of competition for workers in the JC area because of other large employers. So, Airstream is trying to increase the production rate and what we are seeing is more QC issues from several hundred untrained workers trying to learn their job on the fly.

While I watched the folks working on my unit, it was more a Laural and Hardy film clip chaos than a thought out process. The men were climbing over one another and getting in each other's way. The timer was trying to speed the work up and the errors just got compounded.

This points more to an acquisition by Airstream than bringing a completely new product into a capacity maxed out facility where quality is still degraded. If a new product line comes out with the chronic issues we are still seeing in the Aluminum Airstreams, I would expect it would flop.

While many off the competitors lack a dealer network, really only the body shell is unique since all the appliances, frame, axles, tires and wheels etc are common to every trailer and can be easily be serviced locally. The quality resides in the attention to detail and fitment as the parts are installed and double checking before the finished unit departs the premises.
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Old 11-27-2015, 03:20 PM   #172
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New less expensive Airstream

There is too much in your post to agree with, Switz! 😄
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Old 11-27-2015, 03:32 PM   #173
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Which is why I think the new model will be component assembled in jigs.




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Old 11-27-2015, 03:59 PM   #174
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Possibly just another dumbed down Thor product with Airstream signage ala GM, Ford, Chrysler. I hope it's not another clorex bottle design with Airstream logos.
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Old 11-27-2015, 05:28 PM   #175
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Please not a Chinese Airstream.
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Old 11-27-2015, 08:40 PM   #176
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That is funny. Now we know the name.
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Old 11-27-2015, 09:08 PM   #178
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It might be that there is a reason for the secrecy.

Sometimes companies are secretive about secrets. Usually it's because they don't want people to know, or maybe they don't want anyone to find out.

I can't tell you how I know, and don't tell anyone.
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Old 11-27-2015, 10:37 PM   #179
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This is like saying Bugatti is releasing a budget minded Veyron.
What's the point?
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Old 11-28-2015, 02:30 AM   #180
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"NEW AND IMPROVED" (English Translation - it's the same old thing recycled).
My favourite translation: Recreating its corporate virginity - sans memory or common sense.
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Talking Oh checken feathers!

I think they figured out how to recycle chicken feathers and the new roof will not leak, will be lighter and may flutter enough to assist propulsion.


Since there is a new building behind the exiting one, I expect that the current operations will be moved to the new building and the old plant will focus on new developments.



We should find a local house where we can plant a camera, perhaps from more than one site. From that we can see what kind of machinery and raw materials go in and out. At least then our speculations will have a foundation.


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We ought to have a contest - see whose guess is closest - the winner gets a free trip to Jackson Center.

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