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01-13-2012, 12:50 PM
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Mystery Novelist
Alhambra
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Mystery Author has research question...
Hi, all. I write a series of mysteries featuring Joe and Dottie Loudermilk, two married full-timers and amateur sleuths who get in trouble with the law wherever they go, and I have a question I hope someone here can answer for me.
In my latest story, the authorities confiscate the Loudermilks' 24-foot Excella (circa 2000-2005) so that forensic technicians can examine it for clues to a possible homicide that occurred in its bathroom. (Yes, in the bathroom).
For the purposes of my plot, I need Joe Loudermilk to be called down to the Sheriff's station where his trailer is being held to solve a minor technical or mechanical problem that has the forensic investigators stumped. For instance, let's say there's a floor or wall panel they want to remove that they can't figure out how to get open without breaking something. They need Joe, as an informed Airstream owner, to come down and show them how to get the thing off.
All I'm looking for here is a reasonable excuse for them to call Joe out to the station. Anything that might confuse or intimidate someone unfamiliar with the inner-workings of an Airstream would probably fit the bill.
Many thanks for your help!
Gar Anthony Haywood
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01-13-2012, 01:17 PM
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Rivet Master
1983 34' Excella
1967 24' Tradewind
Little Rock
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Quote:
Originally Posted by JLoudermilk
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For instance, let's say there's a floor or wall panel they want to remove that they can't figure out how to get open without breaking something.
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There's the problem with the plot. When authorities search, they use pry bars and chain saws. They don't have to fix things when they are done.
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01-13-2012, 01:49 PM
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Site Team
1964 26' Overlander
1964 19' Globetrotter
OlyPen
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Quote:
Originally Posted by JLoudermilk
In my latest story, the authorities confiscate the Loudermilks' 24-foot Excella (circa 2000-2005) so that forensic technicians can examine it for clues to a possible homicide that occurred in its bathroom. (Yes, in the bathroom).
For the purposes of my plot, I need Joe Loudermilk to be called down to the Sheriff's station where his trailer is being held to solve a minor technical or mechanical problem that has the forensic investigators stumped.
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Maybe he could come down to explain the badge on the trailer?
I think the excella line was retired at the end of 2001. Stated lengths were 25, 29, 30, 31, 34 so a 24 footer would be an anomaly.
Some trailers have/had a panel in the kitchen that seems to covering something (looks like a small kitchen cabinet door with no handle). In reality it is hinged and if you add a handle to it, can open it and use it for storage. They might wonder what is behind that and how to access it....
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01-13-2012, 01:56 PM
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Rivet Master
1992 34' Excella
Austin
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Or where's the secret towel hanger ...
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01-13-2012, 01:58 PM
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Rivet Master
2008 19' Safari SE
Denver
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Maybe while they were in there poking around, one of the techs can notice he has extensive rot in his floor from a leak somewhere and thought Joe should come down and take a look? That would be TOTALLY authentic, from what I can see...
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01-13-2012, 02:05 PM
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Rivet Master
2019 27' Flying Cloud
Albuquerque
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Or, they could demand that he reveal the outside access door to to the expansive storage compartment beneath the trailer floor.
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01-13-2012, 02:14 PM
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Mystery Novelist
Alhambra
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Vaughn, I sense a slight distaste for authority in your response.
Technically, you're right, of course, but in this case, the cops aren't at all sure a homicide has been committed, so they're doing the responsible thing and treating Joe's Airstream with kid gloves.
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01-13-2012, 02:16 PM
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Mystery Novelist
Alhambra
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Ken, if this suggestion is on the level, please elaborate.
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01-13-2012, 02:24 PM
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Have Joe come in to explain why the overhead vent keeps opening and closing on its own.
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01-13-2012, 02:33 PM
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Site Team
1974 31' Sovereign
Ottawa
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Maybe Joe knows that there was no 24' Excella in 2005.
This makes him suspicious of the trailer's construction, and by studying the exterior dimensions versus the interior dimensions, he helps the police find a hidden cache of gold/heroin/cash/murder clues in a hidden closet on each side of the trailer that were cleverly disguised as part of the closets in the mid-section.
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01-13-2012, 02:37 PM
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Site Team
1974 31' Sovereign
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Oops, I just re-read your opening, and now realize that the TT (travel trailer) is Joe's.
Sorry!
Or... Maybe Joe has never noticed the discrepancy in dimensions in all the time he has owned the TT, and apparently a previous owner hid something before he mysteriously disappeared.
(Joe bought the TT from the previous owner's bereaved and very pretty wife, much to the disgust of Joe's wife.)
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01-13-2012, 02:39 PM
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Rivet Master
1967 22' Safari
1960 Caravel
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Didn't Excellas have a hidden floor safe in the closet area?
This safe could have some important evidence and Joe knows the location and how to open it.
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01-13-2012, 02:42 PM
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Rivet Master
2019 27' Flying Cloud
Albuquerque
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It Was Not on the Level, but...
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Originally Posted by JLoudermilk
Ken, if this suggestion is on the level, please elaborate.
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We love our Airstreams in part because they are beautiful but quirky.
One quirk is the lack of outside storage, while our fifth-wheel-friends and motor-home-mavens all have expansive, "basement" storage.
So, I was just being cute, but...
If the investigating detective has a "regular" travel trailer, he may insist that there must be outside access to the under-the-floor storage someplace.
Poor Joe.
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01-13-2012, 03:06 PM
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Rivet Master
1974 Argosy 20
2014 20' Flying Cloud
Kooskia
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True story here: I loaned my 18' Caravel to some friends to go into Canada with. I gave them all the papers, note saying it was OK for them to take it in etc.
At the border, the customs people wanted to have all the compartments opened so they could look inside (for whatever, guns, drugs etc.) My friends had all the keys, but because they were unfamiliar with their operation, they could not get the refrigerator access door open. It requires a push and a turn, and they thought they had the wrong key. Customs would not let them in without looking in there. Many awkward minutes went by apparently in a standoff... we can't open the compartment, we don't know how or the key is wrong... "well, then you can't come into Canada".
Finally in a last go around with the keys they had and some determination, the access door opened, and the Customs folk saw: TaDa... the back coils of the refrigerator.
They were allowed into Canada.
BTW, today the exact same thing could happen on the return into the US.
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01-13-2012, 03:12 PM
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Rivet Master
2008 19' Safari SE
Denver
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Quote:
If the investigating detective has a "regular" travel trailer, he may insist that there must be outside access to the under-the-floor storage someplace.
Poor Joe.
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Oooh, good one!
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01-13-2012, 05:04 PM
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Figment of My Imagination
2012 Interstate Coach
From All Over
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If it has to be the bathroom, then it has to be something with the black water tank. In media, it's not uncommon for a miscreant to flush incriminating evidence, but a criminal unfamiliar with travel trailers and RVs may not realize that there even IS a holding tank and the evidence doesn't go straight to the sewer. Removal of the holding tank could require removal of the bathroom floor, which could in turn require removal of something else first.
Assuming the trailer owner isn't a suspect (yet) he may volunteer to help the detective once he realizes that (1) the tank can't be pumped out normally because the macerator pump could damage the evidence, so the tank has to be removed intact— and inevitably brim-full; (2) someone unfamiliar with the trailer type (the detective) could easily puncture the tank or break a fitting in the process of removing it; and (3) the owner is stuck cleaning up any resulting mess, so prevention of the mess in the first place is in his best interest.
And, of course, once the evidence is retrieved from the extracted holding tank and analyzed, said owner undoubtedly is implicated as a suspect.
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01-13-2012, 05:11 PM
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Rivet Master
2019 27' Flying Cloud
Albuquerque
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This Keeps Getting Better and Better...
Quote:
Originally Posted by Protagonist
If it has to be the bathroom, then it has to be something with the black water tank. In media, it's not uncommon for a miscreant to flush incriminating evidence, but a criminal unfamiliar with travel trailers and RVs may not realize that there even IS a holding tank and the evidence doesn't go straight to the sewer.
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Ooh! This is going to be a real page turner!
Maybe the holding tank has already been emptied by a mobile service provider, and the detective becomes involved in a high-speed chase with the driver of the Sh@$ Sucker.
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01-13-2012, 05:25 PM
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Rivet Master
1983 34' Excella
1967 24' Tradewind
Little Rock
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Quote:
Originally Posted by JLoudermilk
Vaughn, I sense a slight distaste for authority in your response.
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I know, I hesitated to post that. However, seeing footage on the news of searches done on houses and boats done merely looking for drugs, that conclusion was pretty much inevitable.
After all, I did resist saying, "The more damage the better."
Quote:
Originally Posted by JLoudermilk
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Technically, you're right, of course, but in this case, the cops aren't at all sure a homicide has been committed, so they're doing the responsible thing and treating Joe's Airstream with kid gloves.
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I find it difficult that they would be more discrete in a suspected homicide than in a drug search.
I know that fiction calls for the willing suspension of disbelief. Trust me, I'm an avid reader. I also love mysteries. Asking me to believe that police would treat a homicide suspect and his property with kid gloves is an awful lot of suspension. Especially when the suspect is a transient.
Sorry. I really don't want to sound mean either to you or the authorities.
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01-16-2012, 09:58 AM
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4 Rivet Member
1999 34' Excella
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Perhaps the search should be under the bed instead (rear queen)? A false wall could conceal how deep the storage compartment is from the outside, and a false floor coud conceal how deep it is from the inside, leaving a nice place for hidden 'evidence'.
Philip
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01-16-2012, 10:32 AM
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Rivet Master
Airstream - Other
2016 Interstate Grand Tour Ext
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Well, drat. I just checked Amazon (and, by extension, our larger public library) to see if one of your mysteries is available as ebook. No dice. Drat, drat, drat.
Woops! Just did a deeper check! And there are some out there!
http://www.amazon.com/s/ref=nb_sb_no...nthony+Haywood
(Unfortunately, still none of them available at the library, though. Time to submit another request to them!)
Lynn
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