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Old 04-03-2012, 05:36 PM   #29
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This may be off topic but I can't find it anywhere. Lets say since 1980, what has been the most popular length for a trailer.
I am saying the 25' and he is saying the 19'. We have a bottle Crown Royal riding on this (which I intend to enjoy)
Out of the two, the 25' is the most popular. The 19' was not available until 1998, when the Bambi was re-released. The 25' has been made consistently throughout the years. The 30/31’ is a close contender to the 25’.
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Old 04-03-2012, 05:56 PM   #30
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Well I guess that settles it. Think I'll go pick up my winnings.
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Old 04-03-2012, 06:09 PM   #31
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Not all of us want large trailers. We really wanted the 16' International and understand the trade off's. My wife and I are just not the "Supersize" type....
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As with everyone else, one tries to fit together wants and needs. The advantage of a larger trailer, though, is not "supersize", but would be better understood that for longer trips and especially with days of bad weather or that someone is ill that -- in fact -- there is no disadvantage to a somewhat larger trailer than a 16'. One is not constricted by TV choice, for example. The single advantage of the smallest trailer is in parking it for storage. That the disadvantages outweigh the advantages below a certain size is easier lay out on a spreadsheet.

Below a certain a size are disadvantages, as said. And above a certain size are not many advantages except to a small group. Capacities are what is at stake, not floorplan.

So long as one is not seduced by the idea of virtue, trailer size choices are -- not surprisingly -- clustered around 25'. All the advantages, and almost none of the disadvantages, of size, weight, capacity, etc. No extra transportation burden: the small ones must be re-stocked constantly, and the big ones need a larger TV. The "economy" of the middle of the range really is no mistake, thus the "popularity" (going back decades).

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Old 04-03-2012, 06:44 PM   #32
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If anyone is interested you'd better act soon as the International will be discontinued in the 16' size for 2013. I believe that the 19 International will be discontinued (all of the Bambi's in the International range???) too.
We got one of the six Serenity 16's produced in 2012.
I'm surprised by that news of them discontinuing those models. There are several recent 16' International owners in the forums. But then again, you'd think a big majority of recent owners would be members here....

Again, it seems like Airstream is moving from the small-but-nice market.

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Old 04-03-2012, 06:53 PM   #33
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As with everyone else, one tries to fit together wants and needs. The advantage of a larger trailer, though, is not "supersize", but would be better understood that for longer trips and especially with days of bad weather or that someone is ill that -- in fact -- there is no disadvantage to a somewhat larger trailer than a 16'. One is not constricted by TV choice, for example. The single advantage of the smallest trailer is in parking it for storage. That the disadvantages outweigh the advantages below a certain size is easier lay out on a spreadsheet.

Below a certain a size are disadvantages, as said. And above a certain size are not many advantages except to a small group. Capacities are what is at stake, not floorplan.

So long as one is not seduced by the idea of virtue, trailer size choices are -- not surprisingly -- clustered around 25'. All the advantages, and almost none of the disadvantages, of size, weight, capacity, etc. No extra transportation burden: the small ones must be re-stocked constantly, and the big ones need a larger TV. The "economy" of the middle of the range really is no mistake, thus the "popularity" (going back decades).

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I am glad that you have a love of your Airstream and its size. . I suspect based on your answer that any reasons I have for a small trailer are just not going to be well received so I'll save them for another time. Who am I to argue with a spreadsheet?!!!
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Old 04-03-2012, 07:04 PM   #34
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I'm surprised by that news of them discontinuing those models. There are several recent 16' International owners in the forums. But then again, you'd think a big majority of recent owners would be members here....

Again, it seems like Airstream is moving from the small-but-nice market.

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I think that what probably happens is that people see the price and balk. The International price jumps up pretty substantially from the base Sport. The masses don’t see the value…
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Old 04-03-2012, 07:29 PM   #35
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I am glad that you have a love of your Airstream and its size. . I suspect based on your answer that any reasons I have for a small trailer are just not going to be well received so I'll save them for another time. Who am I to argue with a spreadsheet?!!!
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I suspect you misunderstood me. Why any of us "like" a particular trailer is weighed by the trade-offs we're willing to make. But some trailers -- simply in size alone -- have the fewest trade-offs. Size is not, itself, a virtue (would be the point), but the mid-point of available sizes is not accidental.

How "well received" is another matter entirely as it is personal. The thread is on "most popular size" which implies, well, why? Not why any of us chose the trailer we have at present.

If it helps, "supersize" more nearly describes anything above 28' (in the roughest sense) even though a family of six might make more efficient use of it than any couple could with a 19'. For anything up to that point the word wouldn't work (why the use of a spreadsheet, conceptually, makes more of this clear).

Largest and smallest come with penalties. And they are expensive in comparison to the mid-range. Personal choice is not at issue in that.

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I suspect you misunderstood me. Why any of us "like" a particular trailer is weighed by the trade-offs we're willing to make. But some trailers -- simply in size alone -- have the fewest trade-offs. Size is not, itself, a virtue (would be the point), but the mid-point of available sizes is not accidental.

How "well received" is another matter entirely as it is personal. The thread is on "most popular size" which implies, well, why? Not why any of us chose the trailer we have at present.

If it helps, "supersize" more nearly describes anything above 28' (in the roughest sense) even though a family of six might make more efficient use of it than any couple could with a 19'. For anything up to that point the word wouldn't work (why the use of a spreadsheet, conceptually, makes more of this clear).

Largest and smallest come with penalties. And they are expensive in comparison to the mid-range. Personal choice is not at issue in that.

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OK, I am a little confused here! Nothing new for me.....
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Old 04-03-2012, 07:56 PM   #37
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Rednax, are you saying that size IS or ISN'T important?!
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Old 04-03-2012, 09:22 PM   #38
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I purposly chose the Sport 16 due to weight. It is the only late model Airstream that my Jeep can tow (legally and by specs). But what difference does it make which is the mosy popular size? Unless your goal is to look like the plurality of Streamers. Again...why?
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I purposly chose the Sport 16 due to weight. It is the only late model Airstream that my Jeep can tow (legally and by specs). But what difference does it make which is the mosy popular size? Unless your goal is to look like the plurality of Streamers. Again...why?
Just curiosity I guess. Didn't mean to open up a whole defensive can of worms. I was interested statistically.
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Size matters. It matters differently to different people. What is "virtuous" differs by person, usually emphasized when they become emotionally involved in the size.

When we were looking, we tried to look at it as "do we really need this?" Well, we didn't really need a trailer at all, so "how much do we really need in a trailer?" was the question. Living and sleeping and cooking space matter. Bed matters. Bathroom and shower varieties matter. Price matters. Storage matters. Parkability matters. Tow vehicle matters. Claustrophobia may matter. Number of travelers matter. Airstream makes a lot of different models and trim lines (one reason costs are high), so there are a lot of choices.

It seems to me this thread was started to find out a simple answer—what is most popular? Patrick says the 25 is more popular than the 19, though that doesn't tell us whether it is the most popular of all.

If virtue is decided by popular vote either we or our Safari are the most virtuous (does trailer virtue rub off on the owners?). I'd rather have the bottle of booze. The virtuousity thing doesn't count for much.

Sometimes it amazes me how we can make so much out of a simple question (I enjoy it though). We really need to get out more. I went out to the trailer and replaced more of the floor yesterday—not sure that is "getting out".

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..... We really need to get out more. I went out to the trailer and replaced more of the floor yesterday—not sure that is "getting out".

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The season is fast aproaching Gene. Nice summation/observation of the thread by the way.
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I am glad that you have a love of your Airstream and its size. . I suspect based on your answer that any reasons I have for a small trailer are just not going to be well received so I'll save them for another time. Who am I to argue with a spreadsheet?!!!
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Ah, the spreadsheet. A bunch of boxes where you can put down checks or leave them blank. All very scientific sounding until you get right down to the act of checking the boxes. This is a judgement call and will be different for each person filling out the spreadsheet. We all have opinions and that is not what the OP asked for. He did not ask why large trailers are better than smaller trailers. He simply asked what the most popular size was.

Bruce, you can't argue with a spreadsheet, them thars the facts pardner!
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