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Old 03-24-2012, 11:24 PM   #1
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Does anyone make a memory foam mattress topper that will fit the queen bed in my 25fb Flying cloud? I know I can get one and cut it dowm but the toppers are like fitted sheets and you can tuck them in so I would like to have one that fits well. Also has anybody have any experience with just replacing the mattress with a memory foam type? Comfort etc. I heard the factory was installing toppers on the newer 2012 models.
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Old 03-24-2012, 11:44 PM   #2
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I just got a four inch memory foam topper from Walmart for the Bambino's mattress. It's a bit short; I suppose if I were to do it again, I'll try to get an Extra Long Full to cut down next time, as it leaves a gap at the top where the curve of the wall goes out before coming back in. Then I put a Full mattress topper with memory foam in it over that, using one with extra deep pockets. I use the extra long suspender straps from Bed Bath & Beyond to cross in an X underneath the mattress from corner to corner to hold it on without it flapping about because the full size is too big for the mattress. The sides wrap around a bit, but not so badly there's no longer an edge to the mattress.

It's all pretty comfy now, lots of support but not too hard, and I can no longer feel the hard mattress under the two toppers. Since the WalMart piece is a cheap mattress topper with fairly low density, I got the 4" instead of the 1.5", figuring that it will fairly quickly pack down to the 1.5 anyway. The mattress topper I got at TJ Maxx, and spent a bit of money on, since I wanted the kind with the elastic sides and deep pockets that fit from 5 to 18" mattresses.

I love stuff like this, which is stuff I learned about beds while working for Polo Ralph Lauren (the sheer amount of pillows on the bed is a dead giveaway that I used to work for ol' Ralphie--"we don't sell clothes, we sell lifestyles...") and why I used to work for Bed Bath & Beyond as a personal shopper. Sooner or later I'll do a post on my blog on how I make my bed...
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Old 03-25-2012, 12:50 AM   #3
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I like this stuff too. I have always appreciated quality, function and good looks in a product. While I have never been a buyer I have speced lots of building projects over the years and I would always try to accomplish these goals. I would insist in elegance in design while making sure the equipment met or exceeded the customers needs.I love the opportunity this trailer lends itself to create your own very personal space.I know I have gotten way off base here but I am sure having fun.

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Old 03-25-2012, 12:56 AM   #4
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Haha! Me too! My blog really will eventually be about the actual traveling, but it's always going to be about design and shopping to some extent! I mean, why else do we love Airstreams so much but the design?
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Old 03-25-2012, 07:50 AM   #6
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Does anyone make a memory foam mattress topper that will fit the queen bed in my 25fb Flying cloud? I know I can get one and cut it dowm but the toppers are like fitted sheets and you can tuck them in so I would like to have one that fits well. Also has anybody have any experience with just replacing the mattress with a memory foam type? Comfort etc. I heard the factory was installing toppers on the newer 2012 models.
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This one works excellent.
2.5" Memory Foam Topper - Queen - Sam's Club
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Old 03-25-2012, 08:27 AM   #7
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Does anyone make a memory foam mattress topper that will fit the queen bed in my 25fb Flying cloud? I know I can get one and cut it dowm but the toppers are like fitted sheets and you can tuck them in so I would like to have one that fits well. Also has anybody have any experience with just replacing the mattress with a memory foam type? Comfort etc. I heard the factory was installing toppers on the newer 2012 models.
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We put some sort of topper on ours, but it really didn't help that much. Basically a waste of $100. Our topper wasn't a memory foam, but if you think about it, any topper is relying on the mattress itself to work, so a worn-out mattress isn't going to be saved by a topper.

Last fall, we replaced the original mattress and topper with an 8" memory foam mattress....now, THAT'S where it's at. That mattress is nicer than the one in the house. Mmmmmm. We'll be replacing the house mattress with memory foam next time.

We were able to get it through Sleepy's, but the woman had to do some legwork to find it for us; the other mattress places (Mattress Warehouse, Mattress Discounters, and Sears) gave us strange looks when we asked about RV Queen or Short Queen mattresses. Actually the woman at Sleepy's did, too, but then she took our number, made some calls, and found one. The price she got was roughly equivalent to what they are online, I think about $680. I suspect the other shops could have found something if they'd tried, but who knows?
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Old 03-25-2012, 10:28 AM   #8
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I learned (by accident, with two of my guest beds) that the secret to a cheap, comfy sleep is a hard, supportive mattress with a very thick mattress topper (one that is supportive enough that you don't actually feel what is underneath it when you're lying on it, doesn't matter how cheap or expensive, really), and then a thick, good quality mattress pad, preferably one with thin elastic sides and deep pockets. According to my guests, this was the most comfortable bed they'd slept on ever, so from then on I've made all my beds this way.

This is what's happening when you use a foam mattress on top of the bed platform. Essentially, if you're using a mattress, it doesn't seem to matter how good the topper is so long as it's so thick and/or supportive you can't "bottom out" on the mattress or surface underneath. That first bed, I used that cheapish "egg crate" foam on top of the cheapest mattresses we found in the store; it was nearly five years ago I first layered that bed together and people still are talking about how good a sleep they get on that bed; and it was all a lot cheaper than buying a top quality mattress. More fuss to make the bed, of course, but at the time price was definitely something we had to watch.

The mattress pad offers yet another layer that is supportive, running in a different plane from the cells in the foam topper and abetted by the fabric of the pad, helping to keep you from sinking in too deeply if the foam is not top quality. Most also protect the topper and mattress from fluids and messes like spilled coffee. You don't really need the mattress pad if your foam topper is really high quality, but I'd have one anyway just to protect the expensive topper.

A 5 lb density Sensus mattress pad is considered pretty much the standard top of the line, and it's priced accordingly. It's the most supportive in the industry without being hard, that I know of. (3 lb density is considered "normal" or "standard". If the foam topper you're looking at does not mention density on the packaging, it's probably under 3lb.) One thing about Sensus is that it's the most heat sensitive of the foams, so if you're fond of desert climes while in your camper, choose a thicker Sensus pad or one of the other brands like Foamex, as you will find the foam to get softer and less supportive when it's hot over a period of time.

Rocky Mountain Mattress (linked above) can also make you a custom mattress out of pretty much whatever you want, so if you're after replacing the mattress entirely without all the fuss of toppers and can afford it, that's a good way to go. Just make sure the foam mattress is thick and supportive enough that you don't sink through to the platform, and you're good to go. (In a less expensive version, you want to go firmer with the foam and then use a topper again. Which takes us right back to the first instance.)

Yes, that's right, I am a bed anorak.
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Old 03-25-2012, 01:58 PM   #9
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I think I'm going to try the Sensus. Coincidentally, my parents only had one mattress that I know of for their entire marriage. They called it (what I thought was ducks) the Dux bed. This is a mattress imported from Sweden. They are quite popular in the PNW and are sold in Duxiana stores. Incredibly expensive but apparently quite well made. I know they have innersprings and two handles to adjust the firmness at the foot of the bed. I agree with zlee that the firmness along with the soft top is the best solution. Time (and money) will tell.
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Sooner or later I'll do a post on my blog on how I make my bed...
Sooner has arrived, if anyone is curious.
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Buy and cut to fit. An electric carving knife is all it takes (as told to me by a man whose side business was foam. A decade before he went and bought a faincy dedicated wire knife). I took the king bed topper we had (nice one) and cut it down for our first SS so that the topper was actually just a bit smaller in all dimensions than the mattress/box spring.

For this trailer I had CANTWELL of Corpus Christi make an 80" bed for me according to dimension. Done the next day and with a better cover than I had paid for. The mattress & box spring are taller than the oem bed set, but even with the topper it's no hardship. I'm using the bamboo linens from the last trailer. Sleeps great (and I usually don't).
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