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Old 07-15-2012, 10:24 PM   #1
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Life passed before my eyes.

This weekend we went through the same routine many of you did. We got home from work, hooked up, and started our travels to join our friends at the next best rally of our life.

This one was close, only about 90 minutes away. It was an easy drive, but I had never been in this area before. We got off the turnpike, turned south for a 10 mile drive to the campground.

So we're going about 40 in a 50 in the Suburban with the 30' classic in tow. The road is straight, dry, and daylite still. Although a little hilly, I'm in a almost flat area. Up the road a bit, I see what appears to be an unmarked white crown vic oncoming. He turns left in front of me. No big deal, plenty of room.

All the sudden, he stops once he clears the intersection. Odd, but no big deal........ Then he decides to throw it in reverse! Yep, he backed up into my direct path.

My mind went into slow motion. I pride myself on trying to keep an "out" whenever possible. In this case, one did not exist. I'm not about to swerve into oncoming traffic for this guy. I yell to Dawn something, not sure what.

Split second decision was not to slam on brakes. First, I have no idea whats behind me. Second, this would nose dive my truck and potentially cause greater injury to Dawn and myself. So, I hit the brakes conservatively, and prepared for the hit to his passenger side. Quick math would prove I would "win" this hit with 2+ ton of mass colliding with a stopped car sideways.

We seen his lady passenger scream and hold her head. With no room to spare he punched it into drive and we cleared each other.

In short, you can be prepared for anything, but you can fix stupid.

So what did I learn? First, pack fresh underwear in the truck. Second, when loading your tow vehicle, pay attention to what you lay in the backseat or open end of an SUV. I had two bikes, various tools, cooler, and a hedgehog in cage (don't ask).

Now picture that coming forward to the back of your head at 50 MPH. Hmmm.

Kiss your spouse tonight.
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Old 07-15-2012, 10:30 PM   #2
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This weekend we went through the same routine many of you did. We got home from work, hooked up, and started our travels to join our friends at the next best rally of our life.

This one was close, only about 90 minutes away. It was an easy drive, but I had never been in this area before. We got off the turnpike, turned south for a 10 mile drive to the campground.

So we're going about 40 in a 50 in the Suburban with the 30' classic in tow. The road is straight, dry, and daylite still. Although a little hilly, I'm in a almost flat area. Up the road a bit, I see what appears to be an unmarked white crown vic oncoming. He turns left in front of me. No big deal, plenty of room.

All the sudden, he stops once he clears the intersection. Odd, but no big deal........ Then he decides to throw it in reverse! Yep, he backed up into my direct path.

My mind went into slow motion. I pride myself on trying to keep an "out" whenever possible. In this case, one did not exist. I'm not about to swerve into oncoming traffic for this guy. I yell to Dawn something, not sure what.

Split second decision was not to slam on brakes. First, I have no idea whats behind me. Second, this would nose dive my truck and potentially cause greater injury to Dawn and myself. So, I hit the brakes conservatively, and prepared for the hit to his passenger side. Quick math would prove I would "win" this hit with 2+ ton of mass colliding with a stopped car sideways.

We seen his lady passenger scream and hold her head. With no room to spare he punched it into drive and we cleared each other.

In short, you can be prepared for anything, but you can fix stupid.

So what did I learn? First, pack fresh underwear in the truck. Second, when loading your tow vehicle, pay attention to what you lay in the backseat or open end of an SUV. I had two bikes, various tools, cooler, and a hedgehog in cage (don't ask).

Now picture that coming forward to the back of your head at 50 MPH. Hmmm.

Kiss your spouse tonight.

Whew, my weekend? Oncoming truck wanting 2/3 of road - My safari slid off the road into a wet ditch - and quickly got back on with no damage but mud in the wheels and steps - YOUR story beats mine! When I pulled into the campground later, I stopped, got out, ran to the trailer and spend a few minutes there "adjusting the wardrobe" before going into the office and paying for my reservation. I wonder how much a new seat would cost for the Silverado?

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Old 07-15-2012, 10:34 PM   #3
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Wow! Glad you and Dawn made it through this unscathed. Thanks for the reminder.
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Old 07-15-2012, 10:45 PM   #4
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Thats an incredible story and it sounds like you made all the best split second decisions.. We are all thankful of the outcome. What was that guy thinking? Totally oblivious to his surroundings.. ugh.
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Very glad to hear that all are fine, even if shaken.
It isn't pretty thinking how close that was.

Very good advice about loose objects in the truck.
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Old 07-16-2012, 01:41 AM   #6
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We're glad that you and Dawn are safe Dan. How's the hedgehog?
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Unsecured items in vehicles (right down to what is in the pickup truck bed) should be of concern. I remember the laugh I had when the first guy was killed by his IPod . . he survived the vehicle crash, but the IPod was still moving at 70 when it hit his head.

Stupidity on the road has no end. Where I live is the land of illiterates. Don't know what to do in many road situations (don't read, don't have conversations with people who do to consider the effects of rules which govern road behavior; no tools in thinking) thus dumb acts prevail in non-standard situations.

Was returning from a run yesterday (big truck) and prepared to enter a storm front by slowing to below 60-mph. The cold edge of that storm had a bit of hail (light) and

. . sure enough, the cretins (who are also less likely to have auto insurance than the rest of the nation) are coming to a full stop. On the Interstate. All lanes. Under the bridges and just past. This storm was shallow, barely a half-mile. One mile ahead and the road was dry. 75-mph speed limit. Glad to get past them (dodging through several lanes), but

they are out there.

There's just no topping ignorant and stupid when in combination.

So, it ain't about vehicle mass . . it's about steering control and the stability of the combination. Best hitch, best rigging and best brakes/controller with best tires.

More to the point (since we can't teach accident avoidance maneuvering) a hitch that won't allow the trailer to swerve to one side (VPP), the addition of trailer disc brakes -- behind a tow vehicle with disc brakes on all axles (and state of the art brake controller) --

will bring that combination to a full stop faster than the tow vehicle when solo.

And zip up the women's purses. And kids backpacks. That crap flies everywhere.

Don't expect to come a stop only once in an accident. All the electronic accident avoidance gizmos aboard are good when still moving, but disabled if enough damage in a crash prevails. Same for air bags, they're only good one time. It ain't over till the last dumb mother hits you. Keep the seat belts on, and stay in the vehicle.

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Old 07-16-2012, 02:50 AM   #8
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So what did I learn? First, pack fresh underwear in the truck. Second, when loading your tow vehicle, pay attention to what you lay in the backseat or open end of an SUV. I had two bikes, various tools, cooler, and a hedgehog in cage (don't ask)...

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DanB, I won't ask about your hedgehog in cage... but glad you had your hedgehog in a cage!

Which is a good reminder when traveling with pets... for your and your pet's safety, it's a good idea to keep pets in a cage/crate/carrier secured with a strap.

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Old 07-16-2012, 04:17 AM   #9
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Which is a good reminder when traveling with pets... for your and your pet's safety, it's a good idea to keep pets in a cage/crate/carrier secured with a strap.

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And if you have a large dog, consider a harness/seat belt combination...

Accidents happen... Travel safely... Seat belt your dog!

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Old 07-16-2012, 05:57 AM   #10
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I am so happy that you are able to tell about this MISS adventure.
There are so many people out there with what on their minds, that it pays to run through scenarios in your own mind on a regular basis. Again so glad that you and yours are safe.
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Old 07-16-2012, 07:36 AM   #11
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That guy's license should be revoked.

Glad you, Dawn, the hedgehog, and the Airstream are all okay!

Rednax, I see it all the time, too. It's like people know how to operate the car and therefore think they know how to drive. I want to get a dash camera to record all of the stupidity I see - mostly aggressive drivers, but also quite a bit of other stupidity. This incident would be a perfect example.
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Old 07-16-2012, 08:15 AM   #12
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Yoweee! How frightening! Glad everyone is okay.

One of the reasons Doug-the-driver does 99 percent of our driving is that his reflexes are finely honed to deal with anything at any time. We once were coming down a steep hill in Arizona when a large slab of metal roofing appeared in our lane. With oncoming traffic, nowhere to go, Doug deftly and miraculously avoided this and somehow kept us from hurtling over the unprotected embankment.

Good drivers keeps safe from the morons out there.


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Here at work (Corps of Engineers) we are required to take a National Safety Council-approved Defensive Driving course every three years. If you haven't had one, find one and take it. Well worth the time and effort. With 31 years of service, I've taken Defensive Driving ten times, and I still pay attention every time.

Plus, depending on your insurance company, taking a Defensive Driving course can save you money on your premiums.

The only problem is, if good drivers always drive defensively, the bad drivers out there never get to learn how bad they really are when everyone is getting well out of their way. Some of them NEED a scary close call once in a while to make them understand their ineptitude.
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Concerning loose objects: friends of my girlfriend were recently very badly injured in an accident not of their fault. Their dog died after flying through the front screen. After finding out that they had an un-caged/unrestrained dog in the car their insurance company simply refused cover.

Stay safe everyone, tony
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