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Old 10-09-2019, 11:46 AM   #41
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Watch your payload if towing with a half ton truck. Our Tundra's payload is only 1540#. 180# for the ARE cap, 20# for the Yakima rack, 950-1000# for the (loaded) trailer tongue weight (27FB), 100+# for the hitch/sway control, (for us) 33# for Rock Tamers...leaves you roughly 200# to share between people, gear, generators, extra fuel and water, any mods you've done to the truck, and whatever goes on the rack. We can pretty much run empty and be over payload.

YMMV depending on the TV of course, but many are in that range. Just make sure you do the math to see if this is even a safe possibility. Also weigh that tongue...I was going by AS spec at 890#, and lightly loaded discovered we had 1000# on the hitch on our last trip. Definitely a lesson learned. We were WAY over in this photo.
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Old 10-09-2019, 11:52 AM   #42
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Actually I think the rated tongue weight is also only including the first AC unit. I'm guessing some of that extra weight is coming from the "optional" AC in front. Optional isn't really optional if you live in Texas.

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Old 10-09-2019, 03:23 PM   #43
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Hi Peter, Iíve been looking for this solution since I already own the Hulivators. Your truck appears to be an F150 supercrew as is mine. Are those Thule roof racks as well?

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Old 10-09-2019, 05:16 PM   #44
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JamesnPcola, we also have an 2019 F-250 and we are carrying two Hobie kayaks. We went with a Yakima Overhaul ladder rack and Thule Hullavators. Loading is much easier with the Hullavators. Although, I am not yet fully comfortable with the Kayak to AS clearance when making sharp turns.
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Old 10-09-2019, 05:57 PM   #45
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This is a very informative post. I have a 2015 F-150 Super-Crew and are transitioning from my ARE hard cover tonneau to the Retrax Pro XR, as that cover will allow me to mount the Yakima Overhaul HD Truck bed rack.

I am working with e-trailer and plan on using the 78" crossbar to place two Thule hullavator racks to carry our two kayaks, weighing 50 pounds each. I was unable to place the racks on the truck cab roof due to weight restrictions, in addition to my concerns of lifting the kayaks up to the rack. We also plan on using the core locks to lock the racks and locking kayak cables to deter a potential thieves.

I did not, and now need to consider the additional weight - towing a 20 foot Flying Cloud. Estimated weight total = 240 lbs (100 kayak, 90 hullavator, 50 bed rack), do I need to adjust my Equilizer WDH? We are planning a 10 week trip and want to be certain we travel safely.

Any advise and input is greatly appreciated.

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Old 10-09-2019, 07:35 PM   #46
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SkipStone, don't forget to include the weight of the tonneau in your payload, 90# in the case of a short bed F-250. Others on this site have more expertise than I do on W/D systems, but I believe you will need to make adjustments.

I have this same combo. BTW first use of the Overhaul on the Retrax, damaged the tonneau rails, even though I followed the installation instructions exactly. Where the Overhaul attaches to the tonneau rail, the rails have deformed. Retrax is shipping me new rails but they believe it was due to over tightening the fasteners, even though I used a torque wrench to their specs. The attachment method needs to be modified so the load is spread over a wider area.
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Old 10-09-2019, 10:05 PM   #47
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Hobie pro angler 14 rack

I have the rack that is made for a pro angler 14. I would like to tell you how it works and where you can get it. 775-741-2605
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Old 10-10-2019, 02:13 AM   #48
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First, I must say All of you are Awesome. I am very new to this community and did not expect such a tremendous positive response. My absolute gratitude to All of You! Iíve read every response and gotten some fantastic ideas! I failed to mention that the 2020 Hobie Pro Angler weighs 122.5 pounds dry. I know thatís heavy. Which unfortunately is to heavy for the Hullivator.
My truck is an f250 4door 4WD beast that can haul / pull anything. From all the excellent post from All of You, I think Iíve come up with a solution to install Yakima ladder racks on the bed with the roller assist on the back rail. Using a make-shift assist, removable pully system for the initial lift Up and removal Down from the rack. The next option is to find a travel partner in the future To assist me LOL😊.
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Old 10-10-2019, 07:56 AM   #49
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When you get it all fixed up to suit you, don't forget to post pictures of your solution. This is a good thread that can help others in the future.

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Old 10-11-2019, 05:01 PM   #50
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Thumbs up Look into EZ Rec Rack, it may help?

Here is my setup with a Thule Xsporter. That is a Hobie Compass Duo. I bought an EZ Rec Rack and as awesome as that rack was it didn't work out for me because I'm short and weak and when the trailer is unhitched, the rake is even higher It ended up to be a two person load and unload. I since bought a PWC trailer for the Duo and love it. I also ended up getting the Hobie Passport as our main yak when we camping The EZ Rec Rack may be something you should look into. I'd barter with you if you were closer but it's now collecting dust waiting to be sold or re-purposed
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Old 10-12-2019, 01:40 PM   #51
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ID:	354117I love my Hobbie Revolution fishing kayak! I take it everywhere! Thule makes a simple rack that bolts to the bed

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