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Old 09-08-2015, 04:55 PM   #29
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I can't justify the cost.
It is a tremendously expensive overpriced trailer.
Even the big ones are small in comparison to other brands as far as storage and walk-around room.
The insurance is ridiculously expensive.
The maintenance and upkeep is tremendously expensive.
It is an addiction. The only cure is a very expensive, very large silver pill.
You buy an Airstream because you want an Airstream. The is no logic or reasoning to it.
I find this aspect of the question -- especially how does one justify buying anything -- fascinating. If truly affluent is never wanting what you cannot afford, one of the luxuries of affluence must surely be buying what you want. But why Airstream? My vintage airframe trailer is frequently mistaken for an Airstream by people who think every riveted aluminum trailer must be -- but also by Airstream owners at vintage trailer rallies. Airstream made very few 15' (ball coupler to rear bumper) trailers. (Cruisette? Wee Wind?) so they're not used to seeing small airframe trailers. But what you get when you buy an Airstream, besides all the "known and unknown known" headaches, is membership in the club. And that's important to many folks.

How much the club is worth, you tell me.; I'm not in it. I like Airforums because of knowledgable contributors. And, as someone pointed out, there's no snippy tone here, no unkind retort cloaked in internet anonymity.

Thanks for the riveting and aluminating discussion
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Old 09-08-2015, 05:44 PM   #30
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Very nice older 31's and 34's can be found that wont break the bank. When I'm sleeping in mine, I cant tell the difference. When I'm under the ZipDee, the shade and breeze is just as nice. Just a thought.
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Old 09-08-2015, 06:09 PM   #31
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Let's just cut to the chase - You buy an Airstream because you don't want to be another Big White Box owner in the campground. And how can you put a price on that?
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Old 09-08-2015, 06:35 PM   #32
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To paraphrase Oscar Wilde: "cynics know the price of everything, and the value of nothing." For me, it IS about value -- and each of us has to decide this for ourselves. In some of the above posts there is a lot of reflective wisdom -- whether it's camping with young kids (instead of watching TV or everyone staring at their smartphones) -- or family members who were "we'll do that when we retire," and then health or other priorities came along. Fact is, we are all on a one way ticket....and everyone has the opportunity to make choices that fit what they value. That goes for everything -- from where and how you live, to our families, and to how we spend our time. Some of us are very fortunate and have the resources to make choices that others may not have. I know I'm very thankful to be in that category.
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Old 09-08-2015, 08:17 PM   #33
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jholder, reminds me of an uncle who lived next door. We would often go there for Sunday morning pancakes. I was just a kid then, but will always remember the Tahitian girl salt and pepper shakers on the table. Why Tahitian? Because my uncle always wanted to go to Tahiti.

I can still see my uncle sitting at the table with those salt and pepper shakers. How many cold winter mornings did he look at them and dream of Tahiti before he left for work? It would be in the thousands But when he retired, he was too ill with COPD to go. Those salt and pepper shakers were his only "Tahiti."

Darnnit all....people should be able to realize at least one big dream in their life.
Incredibly, incredibly touching. Thank you for this affirmation that everything else can wait.
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Old 09-08-2015, 08:39 PM   #34
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Resale value means nothing to me. I intend to keep my Airstream until either I'm too old and feeble to use it, or it's too old and feeble for me to use, whichever comes first. Since it's mostly metal and I'm mostly flesh, I expect it will last longer than I do.

The reason I bought mine was that I was nearing retirement age, and wanted a retirement hobby. I've known too many people who retired and then didn't know what to do with themselves. I didn't want to be one of those people, so I decided on RV camping as my retirement hobby. My Airstream allows me to go new places, see and do new things, and meet new people, and that will help keep me young. Having been retired for the better part of a year so far, I am absolutely certain I made the right choice.

If low-stress Airstreaming can add even one year to my lifespan, it's worth every penny. How much is is an extra year of your life worth?
Well Said, My thoughts exactly!
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Old 09-08-2015, 10:24 PM   #35
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What's the fastest way to turn $70,000 into $40,000? Buy a brand new Airstream! How to justify that? Call it a business office and write it off on your income taxes. Depreciate the unit using the standard 5 year depreciation schedule the IRS allows plus take the added Section 179 expensing of $25,000 off the top on this years taxes. You have to run a legitimate business though so don't get too inventive!
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Old 09-08-2015, 10:27 PM   #36
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I'm obsessing about upgrading to a bigger AS. I full-time, so it would have a big impact on my daily life. But oh, the cost.
Do you think of it as an expense, as in: that purchase money is gone, or do you think of it as merely tying up that money for a time, since resale is relatively high?
How do you frame the decision for yourself?
thanks!



Don't try to justify it, just enjoy it, after all it's you money!
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Old 09-09-2015, 12:33 AM   #37
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How to Frame the Decision?

Easy? Will the costs of ownership keep me awake at night - or cause a HARDSHIP for my relationship with wife, husband, children's needs? If NOT, live your life in the toy you can afford! As has been pointed out: Life can be short! Second, it will be stressful to HAVE to sell because you didn't have the analysis right! If the AS is going to drain you, or the cost of needs are just being met: A RV is just a quickly depreciating toy. Many want a Panamerica, however, missed the opportunity. Get calls often from people hoping to snag a bargain. Dad taught me a good lesson: Don't buy stuff You can't afford - others will feast on your mistake.
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Old 09-09-2015, 02:04 AM   #38
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I am in the same place as paiceman. I worked for 50 years, but I've figured out how to take it with me!
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Old 09-09-2015, 02:41 AM   #39
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Everyone, I am so grateful and moved by your many thoughtful replies. Especially the reminders to balance practicality with the "someday" that may never come. And stories of people who never lived their dreams.
And don't worry —*I won't consider a scenario that requires debt for this. I've been in a 22' with a wet bath for 5 years, so just getting a separate shower would be a big deal.
Used is definitely the smarter financial decision — my used one has hardly depreciated in 5 years. But every time I can't hear myself think or talk on a conference call as the AC loudly blows, I dream about ducted AC (which SOBs have had for years...)
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Old 09-09-2015, 04:19 AM   #40
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It makes me happy.

Like most of you I worked hard and with a little luck retired with some savings. I met a women that liked to camp. I looked around a lot and decided an Airstream was a lot better than anything else I could find. Almost 6 years latter I still feel this way. We have had a lot of fun in our trailer. About a year ago we decided to go to Europe for 2 months. It was a great vacation and the memories will live on for the rest of our lives, but cost Wow. Makes our Airstream's seem cheap.

At about 73 it is about what I can afford and what makes me happy. And planning the trips, doing the maintanence, setting up camp and meeting all the people keeps me young and happy.
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You "justify" the cost by what you are giving up by spending the money, vs. what you get by gaining the experience.

In our case, we went with a 22 sport, as we feel like we are "giving up" the ability to do an expensive airline/hotel/travel vacation once every year. Which used to be fun, but with the state of air travel today, is too much a joyless hassle.

We went with the more affordable 22 vs something larger, because we felt that once in a while we would still be able to maybe do a group air travel trip to someplace cool with friends, and didn't want to feel we had all of our vacation $ in one basket, so to speak.

We gained the ability to travel to the western US and not stay in hotels, and we get to escape noisy hallways, lobbies, restaurants, and sleep in our own bed.

We are 50, and can probably realistically expect to be able to camp until we are 75 on longer trips. So this thing will over time come out to being no more or less expensive that what we were spending already on travel.

We gave up a few things in our monthly budget to cover the ongoing costs, and so far it has been worth it.

Having some close friends and family members die unexpectedly has helped to make this decision.

We also realize that realistically we are probably going to be working until we are close to 70, so waiting until we retire is just too long.
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Old 09-09-2015, 08:03 AM   #42
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My wife and I have traveled the country in the big Motorhomes, Lots of places we wanted to see but could not "fit in", After a bout with the Big C our outlook on life changed dramatically, we are looking for a 30 classic, It is not if you can justify the cost! It is about what you want to do with the little time you have left, we will travel this beautiful country till then. There is something special when you wake up on the road, sitting having your morning java, and you look at your wife and say "where do you want to go today" Gary & Megan
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