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Old 11-14-2015, 06:41 PM   #253
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Yes, a 20 gauge has plenty of stopping power and is easier on the shooter over the 12 gauge. Of course, you can get 12 gauge reduced recoil rounds. We use them at work.
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The higher the "gauge" the smaller the shell.

10 gauge. 12 gauge. 20 gauge. Are good examples.

A 20 gauge for only self defense is appropriate. Makes lots of noise no matter what anyone might say. Although you would need to hire someone to do sheetrock work if used indoors.

A 12 gauge is more shot gun than you need, unless you hunt geese or duck from a blind. Some States have hunting season for deer using "slugs" rather than buckshot. Probably for East Coast and congested State hunting.

A 10 gauge. That is a cannon with a stock. If you are not braced against something, it will knock you on your buttocks. I was introduced to an older shotgun that was a single shot 10 gauge at 15 years old in Missouri. I stood up in front of the log I was sitting and found myself on the other side after firing it above tree line.
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As I had said before... statistics are exactly that. "A random variable that takes on the possible values of a statistic. adverb definition" As a noun "a single term or datum in a collection of statistics".

Now does everyone understand Statistics? Those are the Webster's definition. Mine definition: "Be careful of statistics as both sides of an argument can take the same information and prove themselves to be correct."
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I like pumpkin pie. Does anyone else like pumpkin pie?
I love pumpkin pie...Even better....Kroger has pumpkin pie ice cream.
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Does it taste like sewer rat Jules?

"A sewer rat might taste like pumpkin pie, but I will never know because I wont eat the filthy #%^* %}#^."


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Would you eat a dog?


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Not on purpose, unless starving. They don't taste that good. Greasy.


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Criminals and bears don't care about the statistics and the laws. I'm not going down without a fight and I sleep real sound knowing I have an edge. I may not win in the end but maybe I'll take some criminals with me. To each his own.
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I have spent a large portion of my life in regions of the world where dogs, monkeys and cats are considered food not pets. Eat enough street food and you will eat all three.

You made me laugh.


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True that! As long as street food is served fully cooked and piping hot, and tastes good, I don't ask, or care.

The only times I ever got sick overseas was when I made the mistake of eating in the mess decks in port...

Was at a wedding celebration in the Philippines years and years ago. Was sampling the buffet and determined that roast pig was super, roast water buffalo is tougher and a bit stringy. Tried something else sort of greasy and unidentifiable, and one of my Filipino buddies saw me eating it, and told me what it was. I managed the grace of finishing my portion, but didn't take seconds. He was a bit surprised, but I knew I had to be polite. There are worse food items from that culture and region, and we're going to leave it at that.

Choose carefully, and respect the folks that invited you to dinner. Politeness will take you a long way in foreign lands...but you may or may not want to know exactly what you are eating😄😄😄

At Dimsum restaurants, we're the ones ordering dishes that make the chef ask where we come from...curried cuttlefish was one tasty example!


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When the details of a "study" go contrary to the bigger picture, then in my view the "study" is highly suspect.

Simply put, crime dropped dramatically in the era of concealed carry... Period.

This verifiable and observable trend goes against the reported results of the study.
So did you read the study and see why it contradicts popular opinion, or simply decide to stay with your beliefs, and not let data get in the way?

You appear to be suggesting that concealed carry is the only thing that could impact crime.
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Well you see, bigger picture, the dramatic drop in crime over the same period where legal carry increased dramatically tends to make the argument that "more guns in the hands of law abiding citizens is dangerous" look a lot like hyperbole.

As such, the argument you propose is pretty much break even at best.

With this in mind, I have to state that if legal carry saves even one life, it is worth it!

The last line above was kinda a joke...


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I find it so interesting that the Canadians have such strong opinions on this when ther rights have been taken away from them, if they ever had them. It's illegal to have a handgun in Canada, so there is no argument for or against the right to carry.
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I may or may not 'carry'... but, I will use it for protection. I have used before... it is NOT something I take childishly... or in a braggadocio manner. I will protect myself by axe handle or any other method... you can bet your AS ....

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