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11-15-2015, 02:24 PM
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#321
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Rivet Master
1972 31' Sovereign
1975 31' Excella 500
Currently Looking...
Benton
, Arkansas
Join Date: Mar 2013
Posts: 5,868
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Debate is where ideas are tested and sharpened.
Argument is where everything becomes a personal affront.
Debate is generally good, argument is generally fruitless.
I love a good debate, but despise a bad argument.
Brevi tempore!
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The fact that I am opinionated does not presuppose that I am wrong......
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11-15-2015, 02:34 PM
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Full Time Adventurer
2007 27' International CCD FB
Nomadic
, USA
Join Date: Jul 2013
Posts: 2,748
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Does it count if the self defense was against a declared enemy of the United States?
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11-15-2015, 02:58 PM
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#323
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Rivet Master
2007 22' International CCD
Corona
, California
Join Date: Jul 2013
Posts: 9,180
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Nope. Anyone trying to harm me or my family is an enemy.....
However, I won't ever use deadly force to protect stuff....stuff is replaceable, my family is not.
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'The Silver HamShack' ('07 International 22FB CCD 75th Anniversary)
Multiple Yaesu Ham Radios inside and many antennae sprouting from roof, ProPride hitch, Prodigy P2 controller.
2012 shortbed CrewMax 4x4 Toyota Tacoma TV with more antennae on it.
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11-15-2015, 03:04 PM
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#324
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Rivet Master
1972 31' Sovereign
1975 31' Excella 500
Currently Looking...
Benton
, Arkansas
Join Date: Mar 2013
Posts: 5,868
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Quote:
Originally Posted by rmkrum
Nope. Anyone trying to harm me or my family is an enemy.....
However, I won't ever use deadly force to protect stuff....stuff is replaceable, my family is not.
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http://youtu.be/nMZcdut1BsY
Brevi tempore!
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11-15-2015, 03:11 PM
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#325
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Rivet Master
Vintage Kin Owner
Lin
, Ne
Join Date: Dec 2009
Posts: 2,430
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Quote:
Originally Posted by rmkrum
Nope. Anyone trying to harm me or my family is an enemy.....
However, I won't ever use deadly force to protect stuff....stuff is replaceable, my family is not.
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That's when you use rock salt.
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11-15-2015, 03:16 PM
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#326
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Rivet Master
Currently Looking...
Mantua
, Ohio
Join Date: Jul 2005
Posts: 7,062
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The only material thing I would kill to defend is my country. My family, my country, and my personal belief in God are what it's all about.
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11-15-2015, 03:17 PM
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#327
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Rivet Master
2007 22' International CCD
Corona
, California
Join Date: Jul 2013
Posts: 9,180
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Nope, probably not worth the paperwork. Besides, I'm not likely to have the time or inclination to change out the ammo just to defend property.
Tend to be an all or nothing sort...😄
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Rich, KE4GNK/AE, Overkill Engineering Dept.
'The Silver HamShack' ('07 International 22FB CCD 75th Anniversary)
Multiple Yaesu Ham Radios inside and many antennae sprouting from roof, ProPride hitch, Prodigy P2 controller.
2012 shortbed CrewMax 4x4 Toyota Tacoma TV with more antennae on it.
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11-15-2015, 03:48 PM
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#328
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1987 Avion 34W owner
Vintage Kin Owner
Good Ol'
, USA
Join Date: Mar 2014
Posts: 2,090
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Quote:
Originally Posted by BoldAdventure
Does it count if the self defense was against a declared enemy of the United States?
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Yes. (Thank you very much!)
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I this great country!!!!
1987 Avion 34W
1995 Ford F250 7.3L PowerStroke
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11-15-2015, 03:50 PM
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#329
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1987 Avion 34W owner
Vintage Kin Owner
Good Ol'
, USA
Join Date: Mar 2014
Posts: 2,090
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Agreed.
Quote:
Originally Posted by rmkrum
Nope. Anyone trying to harm me or my family is an enemy.....
However, I won't ever use deadly force to protect stuff....stuff is replaceable, my family is not.
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I this great country!!!!
1987 Avion 34W
1995 Ford F250 7.3L PowerStroke
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11-15-2015, 04:08 PM
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#330
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Rivet Master
1981 27' Excella II
mays landing
, South Jersey
Join Date: Nov 2009
Posts: 1,179
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Sounds liken it is well past happy hour now . so everybody relax and take a pill or something. Sal
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Let us live so that when we die even the undertaker will be sorry. Mark Twain
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11-15-2015, 04:19 PM
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1987 Avion 34W owner
Vintage Kin Owner
Good Ol'
, USA
Join Date: Mar 2014
Posts: 2,090
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I'm very relaxed..... care for a cup of coffee or a glass of wine?
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1987 Avion 34W
1995 Ford F250 7.3L PowerStroke
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11-15-2015, 05:21 PM
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#332
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Dazed and Confused
Currently Looking...
1983 31' Airstream310
Hillsburgh
, Ontario
Join Date: Sep 2012
Posts: 3,805
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Quote:
Originally Posted by nrgtrakr
Two things I disagree with.
The likelyhood there is only one person on this thread that has actually had to use a firearm in self defense.
That arguing could ever be anything but stupid.
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Not so much in self defense, but in defense of the success of my/our mission. I've seen things I can't unsee and done things I can't undo and while I can cloak myself in some sort of moral and ethical peace of mind that I kept it between the lines; as I stated before, ghosts are still something to avoid if you can.
Cheers
Tony
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“It’s a recession when your neighbor loses his job; it’s a depression when you lose your own.” "Harry S Truman"
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11-15-2015, 07:10 PM
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#333
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Rivet Master
Currently Looking...
Mission
, Texas
Join Date: Jun 2015
Posts: 836
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I knew there was more than one.
Carry on ...
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11-15-2015, 08:03 PM
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#334
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Storm Master
2005 25' Classic
Austin
, Texas
Join Date: May 2011
Posts: 177
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Anyway, just picked up a new Stealth Safe Minivault pistol safe with keypad for $95 at the local gunshow today. Size is slimmer than my other safe so that it can fit in the bedside stand out of sight. Plus the door opens on the end instead of the top. Plenty of room for two side arms and extra clips. So many places in the Airstream to bolt down a gun safe for secure storage. I like mine close to the bed though. Any one use prefragmented rounds in .40 S&W?
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11-15-2015, 10:00 PM
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#335
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3 Rivet Member
2015 16' Sport
Oakville
, Ontario
Join Date: Aug 2014
Posts: 234
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This is better than the towing threads.
I still think firing a shotgun inside an Airstream is a bad idea. Unless you can get that magic super silenced one that Anton Chagas uses in no country for old men.
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11-15-2015, 10:44 PM
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#336
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3 Rivet Member
1997 21' Excella
Carson City
, Nevada
Join Date: Jun 2009
Posts: 218
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I just got done with my CCW class. I am smarter and know that I need to take more responsibility. So I am corrected when it comes to any future travels. But a shotgun in a trailer?
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11-15-2015, 11:54 PM
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#337
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Rivet Master
1995 25' Excella
xxxxx
, xxxxxx
Join Date: Apr 2015
Posts: 2,351
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A shotgun isn't really great handling in a trailer. No way to swing it....During a days work, I often do building and home searches. Unless the place is a large business or a McMansion of a home, I usually use a handgun and leave the long gun in the car...Same for my home. I have many long guns, but I would likely grab a handgun to clear my own home.
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11-16-2015, 04:22 AM
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#338
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Rivet Master
2021 25' International
Full timer
, Virginia
Join Date: Oct 2012
Posts: 665
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Quote:
Originally Posted by BessieB
I just got done with my CCW class. I am smarter and know that I need to take more responsibility. So I am corrected when it comes to any future travels. But a shotgun in a trailer?
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I believe the reason for a shotgun to be considered is they're more apt to be allowed through border control to transit or remain inside Canada. See the non-restrictive section at URL:
bsf5044: Importing a Firearm or Weapon Into Canada
Ian
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11-16-2015, 06:08 AM
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#339
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Rivet Master
1999 34' Excella
Currently Looking...
Hillsboro
, Texas
Join Date: Feb 2013
Posts: 6,408
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There are options, once one realizes the need. AIrsteams.SOB, truck camper, tent, pup tent, sleeping under God's starry blanket...
Here is one,,, https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Taurus_Judge
You may choose different sizes of deterrence, but is easy to maneuver in tight spaces and I have feasted on game and dispatched vermin.... it is up to the "caliber."..
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11-16-2015, 06:14 AM
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#340
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Rivet Master
2015 30' FB FC Bunk
Ayer
, Massachusetts
Join Date: Nov 2013
Posts: 1,114
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Do I understand it is easier to carry a shotgun vs a hand gun across state lines? The "Judge" looks like a handgun.
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