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Old 11-12-2015, 06:15 PM   #141
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Old 11-12-2015, 06:16 PM   #142
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Ted the good information is all here. Just reread it when you get a chance. And New Jersey is a beautiful state with lots going for it just be aware of the laws.

And here I was working on ordering Shocks today without near as much input.

The consensus is there is no consensus and the only constant in life is change.;o)
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Old 11-12-2015, 06:24 PM   #143
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I have a concealed carry permit and hope to God I never have to use my weapon, but I will be armed to defend my home and family from intruders who threatens us with harm. Just remember, if you have to fire, expect half of your assets to be used to defend yourself, even if you miss.
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Old 11-12-2015, 06:28 PM   #144
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There are several things not to be caught in your possession:

-An Indian Artifact found on Federal property.
-A toy pistol without a Toy Pistol CCP.
-A fossil found on State of Federal property.
-A loaded firearm on a Military Base. (Other than the MP.)
-Common Sense when it comes to Firearms.

Guns are for Fun. Firearms (rifles) are for killing. (Basic Training US Army)

It is amazing how much attention and both extremes of a opinions.

The weapon is an innate object. It is the mindset of those who use it for ill will. Once that is understood, those who use any weapon to enrich themselves or for lethal objectives other than protecting themselves and family... should have a prison where the inmates are armed and the ammunition given freely.

Anyone who has served our country in the military understands what a firearm is capable of. It takes no novice on a trailer forum, who has one or a hundred at home or on the road, to explain safety and what possible uses.

Next time you find yourself being put in a situation where a firearm could have prevented your or a family member's death, because it took ten minutes for the local police to arrive from a cell phone call. The police can then... investigate a murder, rather than a victim protecting themselves from the threat of death or harm.

Just take a deep breath and understand that not everyone is so confident that just your presence on the street at night is a deterrent from harm. When honest people are deprived of protecting themselves... you will have Detroit and Philadelphia and West Saint Louis... and... and.
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Old 11-12-2015, 06:44 PM   #145
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Bluntness is often perceived as incivility by people who live in environments that protect them from ideas.
I don't get the connection between perceived incivility and being protected from ideas. But I did perceive incivility when you were dismissive, on numerous posts, of people who voice a different opinion than yours.
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Old 11-12-2015, 06:55 PM   #146
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I have no real horse in this race, but I often wonder of we Canadians are at more risk when traveling in the US due to our license plates, combined with bad guys' knowledge of Canadian gun restrictions!

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Old 11-12-2015, 06:55 PM   #147
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Apropos of nothing, it is legal to buy and possess pepper spray for the purpose of defending yourself against dogs and bears in both the USA and Canada, although it isn't legal to possess pepper spray for the purpose of defending yourself against a human in Canada (I'm not an expert in this, so please correct me my Canadian friends if I'm wrong). When entering Canada, we were asked if we had any weapons, and I declared my archery equipment, which they weren't interested in, and said I had nothing more to declare. Then they asked me if I had any pepper spray, and I remembered that both my wife and I had small containers that we carried in case our dog was ever attacked by a larger dog. They confiscated those, and didn't make a big deal about it. We didn't buy any replacements while we were in Canada, because we were afraid that if we did, they would be confiscated by the US agents when we came back. It was interesting to me that it was legal to possess on both sides of the border, but not legal to carry across the border.
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There is something strange abut pepper spray here in Canada - to my knowledge you are not allowed to bring it in (we often buy the small containers in the US to at least have something with us when we stop overnight at a Flying J, although I often wonder if I would get myself into more trouble by using it than if I didn't have it!)

But recently in a "Canadian Tire" store - an excellent chain store here in almost every town and city that sells all manner of stuff from automotive to DIY to sporting goods etc. etc. I found large containers of "Bear Spray" on sale!

I believe that is a even more potent version of pepper spray - and the cans were very large! I spoke with the salesperson who assured me it was legal in Canada. I don't understand the situation but think I'll buy me a can and keep the Canadian receipt for the border folks!!\


Last time we returned home from one of our frequent US visits we were asked at the border by Canadian border personnel specifically if we had any pepper spray! They didn't even as about firearms!

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Old 11-12-2015, 07:24 PM   #149
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Certainly another aside on my part - but if you let a can of bear spray or pepper spray rip in your trailer, wouldn't all the "good guys" (including pets) suffer too?
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Certainly another aside on my part - but if you let a can of bear spray or pepper spray rip in your trailer, wouldn't all the "good guys" (including pets) suffer too?

Yes, but not as much as whomever (or whatever) got a dose directly in the eyes.
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Yes, but not as much as whomever (or whatever) got a dose directly in the eyes.

Got it. Thanks. I guess too if that sends the perp running, you can clear out as well....
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I started a similar thread a few years ago and it last about 10 minutes and a monitor shot it down.
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What I find sad is the people who don't like guns and even brag that they've never owned or even shot one think they have some uncanny insight into the things and should be the arbiters on whether other others should have them.
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You and I have had some disagreements on this forum before Bold, in fact one or the other or both of us may have said something that sounded insulting to the other, who knows? But more importantly, who cares? lol

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That was me wanting to add to your statement. And you're right. I know I'm a younger guy around these parts, but whatever happened to the days when guys could have a disagreement, even throw a few punches and then have a beer together?
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