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Old 04-06-2010, 10:26 PM   #29
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I believe the denim is a little heavy, but is a good insulator (when dry). I would pencil out the weight vs other options.
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Old 04-06-2010, 10:37 PM   #30
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My concerns with foam are the toxicity, VOCs, etc. Getting green gets confusing sometimes, because even though it may be "green" to recycle, with some things you have to weigh the pros and cons of having a toxic environment.
Cellulose based products are a viable option. It is made out of recycled products (straw, sawdust, ..). They typically use Borax as fire retardant with is non-toxic.
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Old 04-06-2010, 10:45 PM   #31
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Does propane leak carbon monoxide?
There is a special detecter for propane gas. I can't remember all the specifics, but the main item with them is that propane is heavier than air, so it pools at the bottom of your trailer. The detector mounts low, for this reason. It's also why your refer has a grill underneath it so that air (and propane) can flow directly out of the refer's little "house" to the outside atmosphere.

I'm not certain that a propane furnace can let off carbon monoxide, but it is the appliance that I treat with more respect than any of the others, simply because it is a potentially dangerous machine that works while we sleep.

Certainly a properly-functioning one won't give off dangerous gas, and yet we tend to keep them well past their useful service life. If you had a 34-year-old furnace in your home, I'll bet you would be getting it professionally checked at least annually, or replacing it.

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What is a catalytic heater?
It's a propane heater that has no fan (usually) and does not use ductwork like your AS's furnace. It does not have an open flame, and uses a process that I don't really understand, but it seems to be popular with those who live in relatively warm climates who don't wish to replace their ailing furnaces.

Can you tell I don't trust them? And yet I can't say why. LOL!

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Good. That means by 2016 when gas is insane, I should have saved up enough money, and the price should be decent enough on alternative technology that I can actually do something about the problem.
Egg-zackly! I love your attitude, it's what's going to keep camping alive for many generations to come.

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Old 04-06-2010, 10:55 PM   #32
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My concerns with foam are the toxicity, VOCs, etc. Getting green gets confusing sometimes, because even though it may be "green" to recycle, with some things you have to weigh the pros and cons of having a toxic environment.
It's important to read the background information. Some spray foams have HFC and PDBE; Icynene doesn't. I'm not aware of any outgassing problems. I'm not selling the stuff, nor am I a scientist, but we wouldn't have put it in our coach if we didn't think it was safe.

If I were an environmental purist, I'd live in a yurt. Because I'm an environmental pragmatist, I can tow our '67 Airstream with a fossil fuel powered vehicle, preferably our '66 Dodge.

The Airstream is a wonderful travel trailer, but it is environmentally suboptimal. Even with a composting toilet, solar power, cork floors, etc., it is big, rolling aluminum compromise. This is not to deter you, but simply a gentle nudge. Even the most environmentally sensitive Airstream on the planet will involve trade-offs you won't have to make with say, a straw bale house. It's just the nature of making a structure mobile.

As for your questions, carbon monoxide is gas created by combustion. Propane is colorless, odorless gas. Carbon monoxide is also a color, odorless gas created by the imperfect oxidation (think combustion) of carbon. If you burn propane (or any carbon fuel), carbon monoxide is created... which is why ventilation is important.

Catalytic heaters use a flameless catalytic reaction of (normally) propane and oxygen to generate heat.

As for windmills, meaningful power generation requires a great site, height and steady winds. Solar is a much better fit for RVs. Efficient wind energy is much better suited for a proper, static location.
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Old 05-17-2010, 09:05 AM   #33
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I have done enough goofing around on the wheel well and bed frame. It's time to break out the Nature's Head and dry fit it so I can mock up the bathroom framing. When I have it out, I'll snap a picture.
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Old 05-21-2010, 12:14 PM   #34
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Old 10-20-2010, 09:44 PM   #35
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Terry,

We have been full-timing in our 31' AS for 4 months now. There are 4 of us, Me, wife, two children. We've been pretty happy so far. We spend a lot of time and elbow grease working on leaks, plumbing and electrical. Nothing major to replace so far. We homeschool, too. My wife and I are not living off the grid. We live as conservatively as we can in an RV park. I have lived in Texas all my life and could not stand summer heat/humidity without air conditioning. We will convert our systems to greener ones as they need replacing. I reuse everything that I can.

Not sure where you are moving to, but we are in central Texas and not too far from San Antonio. Might get to say 'hi' sometime. Notice you haven't posted in awhile, how's the rebuild going?

On tow vehicles: a standard diesel truck, one of the older models, will burn biodiesel without modification. Some pretty standard mods can make it burn waste vegetable oil. There is plenty of info on the web about it. The newer trucks, like my '05 Suburban, will burn 80% ethanol. I have a cousin who used to have a solar 'still to make ethanol.

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Old 10-24-2010, 08:53 PM   #36
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My husband is a certified green builder... He suggests Isonyne insulation.. It's soybean based... Not sure of the outgassing- we are still researching... Bamboo is heavy- have you thought marmoleum? Hope this helps!!
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tdturn2 - just found this thread. Great questions and comments. So are you on the road full-time and how is it going? We are on a similar path...
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Just checking in to see how other folks are coming along with their green remodels, additions. Ours is about done.

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Soo luv your remodel especially the cabinets... Can you share if you custom made them? We haven't started yet because I have to redo everything and due to the economy we arent there yet..... Although, I am still sourcing and planning what I'm going to do. What did you end up putting on the walls? Also bamboo flooring or vinyl? I know vinyl isn't green but it sure weighs less...can you share a picture of your bathroom? Thanks - so happy that you are almost there!! Congrats!
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Love the pics! I have two '95 motorhomes (Classic 36 & Land Yacht) that I'll be trying to make as "green" as possible with possible biofuel conversion and so forth...

Also, a '67 Caravel that will be the "in-law" suite that we definitely want to make comfortable and green!
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Hi Pam - Thanks for the love. We used the existing cabinetry since it was already a perfect fit and in great shape. We just wanted to give it a fresh modern look with a sustainable product and that's where the eco veneer came in. We did it ourselves with the help of our cabinet installer sponsor. turned out great but an FYI that it does take many hours of time - but worth it! Here's the shower with lumicor recycled plastic (they sell lower cost remnants too). There are more detailed photos on our site too:

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