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Old 07-04-2015, 12:55 PM   #29
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Here is another link one might find interesting if making a decision to carry or not across state lines. To simplify basically you have the right to carry across any state, however, the weapon must be in a locked case, ammo in another locked case and neither can be accessible to anyone in the vehicle. Further, one cannot stop in the said state with the exception of a stop for fuel, food or bathroom break. One cannot stop overnight, stop to rest and in some states if asked you must provide a reservation for that night out of state. ie traveling through MA one must be able to provide a reservation for that night in say ME.

http://www.handgunlaw.us/states/usa.pdf
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It's hard to resist these threads without an opinion, so . . . my cousins in northern Minnesota use "eh" as fluently as our very good friends in B.C., Alberta, Manitoba, Ontario, and even Kebec. Canada is a beautiful place with wonderful people, sometimes more civil than us.
Dialects know no borders and long ago the open border between Canada and the US saw people move from Ontario into Minnesota and other northern states bringing "eh" and other examples of the Canadian version of English with them. While other provinces contributed people to American states, people often moved west horizontally, so Ontarians (is that a word?) often ended up in Wisconsin, Minnesota, Michigan and the Dakotas. I suspect the many French names in the American west were a result of Quebecois (that is a word) moving west too. And northern New England has a history of "eh" too along with "yup".

All dialects are disappearing as radio and TV bring us a neutral English. The New England dialect is not often heard anymore and southern English is disappearing too although "y'all" is persistent.

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If our gun laws keep the wing-nuts out. I'm all for it.
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I have wingnuts on my stabilizer jacks—do I have to remove them to cross the border?

Another bit of border crossing info—you are supposed to have an insurance card showing you have truck and trailer insurance that is good in Canada. Some US insurance companies do not like having to provide one as it costs them money to print and mail them. And most people traveling to Canada probably don't know they should have them. I doubt this is much of a problem unless you have an accident and have to prove you have insurance. And then there is short term health insurance good in Canada—something I have to research.

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Whenever there is talk of crossing the border, someone invariably comments on which border security agents are more reasonable, more polite, easier to deal with, etc. As a Canadian (married to an American with four dual-citizen kids) who has crossed the border at least a thousand times in the past 30 years I couldn't say that there is any general difference in the demeanor of the agents from one country or the other. The vast majority of them are professional and polite. Every now and then you get someone who is having a bad day or is overly suspicious, but that has been very rare in my experience.

I'm sorry to hear that some of you would not venture into Canada just because you're concerned about travelling without a gun, or going through the proper process to bring one with you. I feel completely at home in the USA without carrying a gun, and with Canada's murder rate being about a third that of the USA I can't imagine why you'd feel the need to carry here.

I hope you'll reconsider and come to enjoy our beautiful country as much as we enjoy yours!
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And don't forget to remove the wing nuts on your battery post. Those can do a lot of damage if used improperly.
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Whenever there is talk of crossing the border, someone invariably comments on which border security agents are more reasonable, more polite, easier to deal with, etc. As a Canadian (married to an American with four dual-citizen kids) who has crossed the border at least a thousand times in the past 30 years I couldn't say that there is any general difference in the demeanor of the agents from one country or the other. The vast majority of them are professional and polite. Every now and then you get someone who is having a bad day or is overly suspicious, but that has been very rare in my experience.
I've only crossed the border hundreds of times starting in 1947 (I have no idea what happened at the border then). When I lived on the border in the '70's, long hair, beards and old cars caused problems coming back to the US. Then immigration and customs guys wore different colored uniforms, so at the Peace Bridge between Ft. Erie, Ont., and Buffalo, NY, we looked for the customs guys when we aimed for a specific kiosk because they were friendly, the immigration guys were not. Now all are in one agency and have adopted the immigration attitude. Maybe my longish hair and full beard are the problem, though I don't drive old cars anymore. Last time we traveled, in 2010, there were a lot of new hires on the US side and maybe they have gotten enough experience by now to have improved. We'll find out next month.

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Grant, it is not Canada that I fear. It is some of the U.S. areas I have to drive thru to get to your wonderful country. Plus when going to the U.S. State of Alaska we have no choice but to drive thru Canada. You can be assured that when I visit I will respect Canadian law just as I expect all visitors to my country to do.
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You can take a ferry from Wash. to Alaska and maybe get around the gun issue that way. The ferry isn't cheap and it would probably make more sense to buy a gun in Alaska and sell it before you leave.

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I would rather make the drive and respecting Canadian law leave the handgun at home and take a legal shotgun (of course to be used only for protection against bears in Alaska.)
An Alaskan cruise is on my bucket list but not with the trailer.
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Dialects know no borders and long ago the open border between Canada and the US saw people move from Ontario into Minnesota and other northern states bringing "eh" and other examples of the Canadian version of English with them. While other provinces contributed people to American states, people often moved west horizontally, so Ontarians (is that a word?) often ended up in Wisconsin, Minnesota, Michigan and the Dakotas. I suspect the many French names in the American west were a result of Quebecois (that is a word) moving west too. And northern New England has a history of "eh" too along with "yup".

All dialects are disappearing as radio and TV bring us a neutral English. The New England dialect is not often heard anymore and southern English is disappearing too although "y'all" is persistent.

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We both live in wonderful , diverse , democratic countries. The language is a bit different , but we can always be understood. Just for a little history lesson, not all French in Canada are from Quebec(quebecois). Actually ,the French in the maritimes(Eastern Canada) have quite a longer history of residence in Canada. They are acadians or cousins to the Cajuns in Louisiana. A lot of French names in new England are also derivatives of the Acadians, who were expulsed by the English army when they lost the war in the 1750's. That's how they ended up in Louisiana The Acadians have been in the maritimes provinces of Canada since the late 1500's. My family personally since 1650. I am very proud of my french ancestors. We still speak French ,but are bilingual, fr and eng. Our french language seems to have wained a bit and it is a daily struggle to retain it. All French came from France or a French colony and English from England or an English colony at the time . These were the facts as I know them. Thks for reading
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A friend once tried to explain to me where the " EH" came from. In his opinion if you grew up in Canada and had to write you address or tell someone your address through your whole life you would also. Such as C-eh-N-eh-D-eh. When he told me this we were on a cruise to P-eh-N-eh-M-eh. We have crossed the border many times with and without our trailer. Never ran into any immigration officials on either side that were anything but efficient and professional. Only had our trailer checked one time crossing back into the US at a crossing in Maine. Lo and behold we had 2 lemons in our refrigerator that needed to be confiscated. Who new, certainly not me. Now I do however. It was early in the morning and at the time I simply thought they needed lemon for their cup of tea. Since then I've come to understand the "why". We enjoy all of our trips into Canada. If I make the bucket list trip to Alaska I will likely comply with the rules and carry a shotgun.

Oh, and, bye-the-way ironically enough the lemons came from NJ. We brought them from home but without stickers attached ........ .
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If you take Detroit, Chicago and wash dc out if the equation our murder rates go way, way down. And these three cities have the toughest gun control laws on the books. Go figure.
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We had the same problem with fruit bought in the US, but I too had removed the labels when I washed the fruit. They told me I could go back to Canada, eat the fruit and come back. Not a good solution.

This reminds me of a crossing when we had bought some alcohol at a duty free store on the Canadian side of the border and went into the Canadian border station to get some form showing we had bought duty free alcohol. Everyone there was watching a guy who had just crossed into Canada and as soon as he left the border station, parked, got out of his car, and started doing something vaguely akin to Tai Chi as interpreted by a crazy person. The Canadians found this pretty funny and so did we. I suggested they shoot him, "that's what we would do". They laughed again and said they had no guns. I suggested they borrow some from the Americans, but they declined. We got the form and went back to the US. The Americans were looking at that guy too with some disbelief and were very nice to us. They wanted to see the inside of an Airstream and I showed them around telling them there were no Mexicans in the closet. They enjoyed the tour, found no Mexicans and didn't look for fruit. That was at least 10 years ago and things were easier at the border then. They had installed the radiation detectors by then—big orange things you drive through. I asked them what happens if it shows radiation and they said you have to drive through another one about 100' away. Then I asked what happens if you fail the test again and they said "we keep you." I guess we had no nuclear weapons, so we got to drive home.

What are the best border crossings to avoid hassles? I think small ones tend to be easier—less traffic and perhaps less concern with problems. The big crossings can be very slow when there are a lot of 18 wheelers shipping cargo across the border and traffic gets backed up. But the best is where there's little or no space for you to park and be searched and there's already a big truck parked there. But once we went to minor crossing and traffic was backed up and it took half an hour to get to the kiosk. The border guy was trying to move people through quickly and asked "do you have anything I would be concerned about?" I said "I hope not". He didn't care I never answered the question directly, was very nice and we went on our way. He even said "how are you?"

Aside from guns, Canadians may be interested in potatoes. We were asked about that when we went to Newfoundland from NS by the ferry people, and when we entered Ontario from International Falls, Minn.

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