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Old 12-07-2012, 06:56 PM   #71
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Funny you should ask

We have had a number of people ask if we would lend out the Albatross for vacations, weddings, family reunions, get a ways, etc. and the answer is "If you are willing to give us $25,000 in cash as a deposit, sure." With that we could at least get our materials/parts costs back but not over 2 years worth of B,S&T.

I think we may be willing to lend it to our kids but only after a few hundred hours of practice on towing, systems, and set up. They might lose interest after that run down. I would be on pins and needles until the kids and the Albatross returned safe and sound.
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Old 12-07-2012, 07:37 PM   #72
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Stingy? I don't think so.

If something breaks, who is going to fix it?

People who don't own Airstreams assume that it's just a cute, miniature house. What could go wrong?

People who own Airstreams know that either a) It's a long way to Jackson Center or b) For those of us who laid in every wire, pipe, cloth seam and wood screw, we wouldn't want the one who was careless enough to break it to the the one to fix it. It is all about the blood, sweat and tears.
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Old 12-07-2012, 07:55 PM   #73
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Reminds me of an old saying..."A BORROWED SAW WILL CUT THROUGH ANYTHING"
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Old 12-07-2012, 08:01 PM   #74
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I am so glad for this thread! We have some people we know fairly well that have been pressuring us by drop heavy hints. "If we can't find a RV to use...." 'Oh we wish we could travel to XYZ to see our daughter......' followed by the discussion about the cost of hotels and such. THey are waiting for us to offer, which we are not going to, but I know they will flat out ask soon.
I know these are hints to use our AS because it only comes up when ours is home.
Mine and Mr. Mod's answer is 'no'. But I know these people will be offended when if finally comes up and we say 'no'.
I worry if something breaks, even if it truly is their fault, they could chalk it up to the fact that our trailer is 35 years old and probably would have broken soon. THen I'm stuck with the expense and hard feelings.

I think I would allow certain guests to stay in mine at my home.

Lending it out otherwise, I would probably only loan it out to one person, my bro-in-law. I know he can handle the towing and he's a truly stand-up guy, even if it isn't so much his fault.

I'm glad I'm not the only one who feels this way.
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Old 12-07-2012, 09:41 PM   #75
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I am afraid I'd have to turn-down a request to borrow my trailer.
I try to be kind and understanding of others but have learned, through experience, that no matter what the loan is (tools, money, car, trailer, etc.) I am just the greatest guy guy in the world when I agree.
Then, somehow, I end-up being the world's biggest a-hole when I want the money repaid, item returned, or damage repaired.
'Funny how if I am in need of something I must buy it for myself but some folks figure, they are entitled to just use/abuse what I have woked/saved for. Then, they try to make ME feel guilty if I don't allow them access to whatever I have, and act insulted if I decline their request.
These are the same people who I have loaned to before with horrible results: they act insulted, appaulled, even angry, when I expect MY posessions returned (oddly, they don't usually offer to return them nor repair/replace damaged goods).
Suddenly, I am the jerk.
So, no I would not loan my Airstream. or tools, or money, or car, or lawnmower, or....
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Old 12-07-2012, 10:05 PM   #76
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Old 12-07-2012, 10:06 PM   #77
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The only person I would let borrow/tow the trailer would be my brother. We have always looked out for each other and he could actually afford to get it fixed. I would let my parents and my aunt and uncle use it in the driveway only because they know and understand how much effort it has taken to earn this trailer and they see how I take care of it.
As for the friends that ask I would offer them motel money - another way of saying NO.
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Old 12-07-2012, 10:15 PM   #78
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Oh we wish we could travel to XYZ to see our daughter......' followed by the discussion about the cost of hotels and such.
According to their webpage, CruiseAmerica has 125 locations in the United States where one can rent an RV. El Monte RV also rents RVs nationwide. I'm sure there are others, but those two popped up right at the top of the list in a quick Google session. Go to their webpages, download a brochure, and the next time your aquaintances ask, hand them the brochure and say, "Bon voyage!"

If they lease an RV from a rental company, then the insurance will be taken care of as part of the lease, and so will any damage that they may do by not dumping the black tank before the toilet overflows, or whatever.

Those companies don't rent out Airstreams, but the moochers asking to borrow one don't need to borrow an Airstream; for their purposes, any RV would do, so why not rent a Class C instead. They'd never even notice the difference in quality, most likely. Unless they're former Airstreamers suffering withdrawl symptoms after being forced to part with their pride and joy…

And if they rent an RV, they don't have to learn how to hook up a trailer or anything, either. Driving a rented Class C motorhome isn't a whole lot different from driving a U-Haul truck, in terms of size, technique, and all that. Much less for them to learn before they hit the road.

And that way they won't have to borrow your tow vehicle because their [Insert car make and model here] isn't equipped for towing, either.
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Old 12-07-2012, 10:21 PM   #79
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Those companies don't rent out Airstreams, but the moochers asking to borrow one don't need to borrow an Airstream; for their purposes, any RV would do, so why not rent a Class C instead. They'd never even notice the difference in quality, most likely. Unless they're former Airstreamers suffering withdrawl symptoms after being forced to part with their pride and joy…
You're right. They don't NEED an Airstream. These particular people like to 'keep up with the Jones''.
But, they want an airstream because what a way to travel! And rightful so.
I didn't NEED an Airstream, I wanted one....so I bought one.
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These particular people like to 'keep up with the Jones''.
By borrowing from the Joneses. Perhaps they can come on the Forums as guest posters to explain how that works? Because I'd sure like to keep up with Bill Gates. Perhaps he'll loan me his mansion?
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Old 12-07-2012, 11:35 PM   #81
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Nail on the head !!! What is it with guys that they don't understand the difference between a toilet and a urinal ??? I don't let any men use my bathrooms period. Just go home. Needless to say I'm not considered a gracious host.
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Old 12-07-2012, 11:42 PM   #82
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I would like to point out quickly this idea of a person dropping hints, and eventually asking....and if they are told "no, im sorry" and that would be construed as offensive....oh man the nerve! What kind of d-bag has the audacity to ask to borrow a very very expensive luxury item bought/built after significant commitment and investment...then are pissed when their request to borrow said item is refused?!

*shaking my head*
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Old 12-08-2012, 12:31 AM   #83
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"Would you loan us your Airstream for our trip?"
'.....No, but can rent an SOB just like we did. Here is their contact info....'
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Old 12-08-2012, 12:51 AM   #84
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