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Old 04-20-2017, 11:28 PM   #281
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That's like going to my next door neighbor and ask him could I borrow your brand new Porsche 911 carrera since my uncle is coming on vacation and he's going to drive my truck for 15 days ?????? Huh??? Really !!!!! Lol
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Old 04-21-2017, 01:09 AM   #282
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Ixnay, onay, evernay- family knows better; friends would never consider such a question; "acquaintance", well that's just laughable
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Old 04-21-2017, 11:45 AM   #283
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Most insurance companies only cover those listed on the policy to tow...Even Auto Insurance has the same rules apply.

My Mother borrowed our van years ago, backed into another car and guess who was responsible for the damages...we were, because we lent out our vehicle to a un insured operator to the policy

If there is a accident on the road, who knows what kind of nightmare you will be entering.

A quick "Sorry, no, because it is only insured for the owner to tow" should take care of it pretty quick.
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Old 04-21-2017, 01:22 PM   #284
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I once had a pickup truck that wasn't anything special - just an extra vehicle when I needed one. I loaned it out from time to time to friends who were truly in need/in a bind. Borrower #1 kept it for 1 week and brought it back full of trash. Borrower #2 kept it for 1 month and brought it back smelling like an ash tray and needing an oil change. Borrower #3 kept it for 6 weeks and brought it back needing an oil change and missing the "Ford" emblem on the tailgate. Borrower #4 borrowed it for 3 hours and brought it back with a giant gash/scratch down the side. None of them claimed responsibility for any of it. They actually claimed ignorance to where the trash came from, who smoked in it, where the Ford emblem went, and how the scratch got on the side. They all reasoned that "since they didn't know what happened, then it wasn't their responsibility to fix." None of them ever even filled the gas tank before they brought it back.

That was just an old truck that I didn't really care about. The AS is a LOT more finicky to set up/take down, tow, etc. And the damage caused by an error could be far more expensive to fix than a missing Ford logo. So NO to borrowing the AS.

When people ask to borrow money, I tell them all the same thing. "I'll loan you the money, but experience has taught me that we won't be friends after this. Either I'll get mad because you haven't paid me back, or you'll get mad because I ask for it back. That's how it always goes. Now, do you still want the loan?" If they say yes, and if I'm feeling particularly generous that day, then I loan them money and silently lament impending loss of another friendship.
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Old 04-21-2017, 02:08 PM   #285
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I once had a pickup truck that wasn't anything special - just an extra vehicle when I needed one. I loaned it out from time to time to friends who were truly in need/in a bind. Borrower #1 kept it for 1 week and brought it back full of trash. Borrower #2 kept it for 1 month and brought it back smelling like an ash tray and needing an oil change. Borrower #3 kept it for 6 weeks and brought it back needing an oil change and missing the "Ford" emblem on the tailgate. Borrower #4 borrowed it for 3 hours and brought it back with a giant gash/scratch down the side. None of them claimed responsibility for any of it. They actually claimed ignorance to where the trash came from, who smoked in it, where the Ford emblem went, and how the scratch got on the side. They all reasoned that "since they didn't know what happened, then it wasn't their responsibility to fix." None of them ever even filled the gas tank before they brought it back.

That was just an old truck that I didn't really care about. The AS is a LOT more finicky to set up/take down, tow, etc. And the damage caused by an error could be far more expensive to fix than a missing Ford logo. So NO to borrowing the AS.

When people ask to borrow money, I tell them all the same thing. "I'll loan you the money, but experience has taught me that we won't be friends after this. Either I'll get mad because you haven't paid me back, or you'll get mad because I ask for it back. That's how it always goes. Now, do you still want the loan?" If they say yes, and if I'm feeling particularly generous that day, then I loan them money and silently lament impending loss of another friendship.
Well stated!
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Old 04-21-2017, 02:43 PM   #286
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Old 08-16-2017, 07:00 AM   #287
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When people ask to borrow money, I tell them all the same thing. "I'll loan you the money, but experience has taught me that we won't be friends after this. Either I'll get mad because you haven't paid me back, or you'll get mad because I ask for it back. That's how it always goes. Now, do you still want the loan?" If they say yes, and if I'm feeling particularly generous that day, then I loan them money and silently lament impending loss of another friendship.
I have a picture framed list of people that I have loaned to, mounted on my closet door. Over the last 30yrs, I've loaned over 100k to 32 people. I don't even want to calculate the inflation factor. 100% of friends will not pay you back. 75% of family the same. Facebook is a great way to see how friends and family plan to pay you back... they don't. You'll soon realize a beach trip, ski vacation in the Sierra's, a 7 day cruise, is more important than paying a loan back. So the next time anyone ask me for money, I show them my picture and say ''I don't want you on this list. These people are all dead to me''. I have two brothers and nephew on this list. It's ironic how friends and family never call you after you helped them out of a bad jamb...ie. car repos, avoid house auction due to back taxes, behind on rent, to start a business that flourishes, fix house up to sell for top dollar etc etc. So they do have a guilty conscious not to return my calls. You don't want my friends and family borrowing a Airstream or anything. A rant ? maybe... but a hard reality. I didn't work 340 days a year for 35 years just to give it away. I hope you can learn from my mistakes.
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Old 08-16-2017, 10:32 AM   #288
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That's a very powerful story. Sad, but powerful!
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Old 08-16-2017, 12:24 PM   #289
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I can't imagine a scenario where I'd loan out anything I cared a lot about.
I do loan out my weedwhacker, miter saw, chain saw, but that's about it. (Oh, and I usually have to ask for them back when I need them.)

I have loaned money, and I've never been repaid. But that makes it easier to say "No!"

A co-worker on mine had a policy on his tools. He loaned a tool if the borrower gave him their billfold to hold. If they didn't, he figured they didn't need the tool that bad.
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Old 08-16-2017, 12:56 PM   #290
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That's a very powerful story. Sad, but powerful!
Sorry about that. All the examples used are from family experience. Sad but true. On a lighter subject. I do buy meals anonymously for Police officers, Firefighters, and especially military personnel. It's my way of thanking them for their service. Giving gifts to needy children at Christmas is a favorite. I don't keep track of this because it comes from the heart. I'm sure it's over 100k in 30 yrs. Next time you see a military person on a date with a young girl, ask your waitress for their bill. It's good for everyone's soul that's involved. I do this instead of loaning out things...very rewarding..... And to keep from hijacking this thread, if I borrowed a Airstream...it would be returned after I finished detailing the inside and waxing the outside. I know...I'm weird.... But it's a respect thing.
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I can point to a different experience. Have helped a good friend out several times when circumstances worked against him. Have loaned money and vehicles to him at several points. He has never failed to pay back loans or return vehicles when he was back on his feet. We are still good friends. Sometimes is a matter of luck. Relatives, however, are a different story, sadly.
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Check out the prices on here to rent one with a tow vehicle(Tahoe) Even if you deducted the cost of the tow vehicle...it would still be about $700.00 a day. Thought provoking...for a big...No. https://www.airstream2go.com
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Check out the prices on here to rent one with a tow vehicle(Tahoe) Even if you deducted the cost of the tow vehicle...it would still be about $700.00 a day. Thought provoking...for a big...No. https://www.airstream2go.com
Those are some hefty prices.....I wonder how many they actually rent at those prices. I've seen some for a lot less with and without a TV.
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Old 08-17-2017, 12:52 PM   #294
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There's an Airstream and tow vehicle rental service in our area...prices not too bad.

http://www.letsgosilver.com/fleet/
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