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Old 07-12-2017, 12:56 PM   #15
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Yes, it really comes down to personal preference and HOW you camp.

I'll start by saying when camping or boondocking we think of our indoor cooking options (stovetop, oven, microwave or crockpot/electric or using the inverter) as bonus options because we are more likely to use any one of our five other outdoor cooking options first (camp grill w Dutch oven, gas grill, charcoal mini green egg/smoker, pizza stones or a portable electric stovetop). Obviously our first preference is to cook and dine outside.

Anyway, having had both the propane oven and currently the convection/micro combo we've use(d) and enjoy both Equally. In both our larger Airstreams the propane oven usually set off the smoke alarms and it did radiate more heat throughout the trailer than the convection oven does. You will experience similar heat and alarms when you cook indoors using your propane stove. It isn't a tremendous amount of heat but is noticeable. When we downsized to our new 25' it already had the combo oven installed and we could've switched it to a propane oven but that would have meant giving up the microwave option so we figured we'd give the combo oven a go and we are glad we did. Initially I had a concern about how low the combo is situated in the trailer but for the couple of seconds (literally) it takes to put something in/out or to program it I'll sit in front of it on a small collapsible stool that we carry for other purposes, so problem solved. Btw, microwave is great for moving days when you are packed and want a quick brekkie before hitting the road. For those days alone we are happy we didn't forgo the microwave. Our larger trailers had a separate microwaves and we didn't want to give up any more cabinet or counter space in the 25' to house another unit. Another plus for the combo.

A few other pleasantries we like about the convection/micro combo oven is that it seems easier to keep clean than either of our propane ovens. Not sure why but things don't seem to bubble over so much in the convection and there are fewer nooks & crannies where food might hide and attract unwelcome guests. I dreaded baking lasagna or Mexican dishes with sauces in the propane oven knowing it would require some level of elbow grease to clean up the spills afterwards. The combination of microwave and convection cooking is far quicker and less heat than firing up the propane oven. With many of the convection cooking methods the drip tray & the raised grill grate that comes with it are necessary so even if roasting or grilling the mess is minimal. Also with the convection oven we've been able to exchange some heavy pots/pans for lighter, stackable silicone cookware and bakeware (also microwave friendly) and weight is always a consideration when packing your AS. Oh, and did I mention we bake more now with the convection oven too? We didn't carry oven proof bakeware before simply because it was bulky, heavy, harder to cleanup and couldn't be used in the microwave or fit in the sink easily like the flexible silicone.

Fresh baked cookies, muffins or biscuits are a pleasant surprise on a rainy day when you find yourself having to stay inside and cook! Our experience with these First World problems, aren't we blessed?
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Old 07-12-2017, 03:00 PM   #16
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FYI this thread in the Stella's Kitchen forum has over 500 posts from fans of the gas oven, microwave, and convection oven.

http://www.airforums.com/forums/f484...ven-28619.html

We have and use only the gas oven. We bought the current FC20 in part because it had a gas oven. Would not own a trailer without one.

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Old 07-12-2017, 03:28 PM   #17
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Yep depends on how ya camp. I camp mainly without hookups and no generator so the gas oven was what I needed since a microwave convection uses a lot of power. If ya plan on always bein plugged in and you ain't against microwaves for any reason than go for it.

I think I got the fanless fridge by not gettin the microwave, apparently they use a fridge with a fan if ya get it and that can be louder.

But I will say the gas oven works great, I use it a bunch.
Scoot, listen to what he said.

If you are always hooked into power, you can go either way. If you boondock you will not be able to use the oven. You can always use a gas oven. Someone will chime in soon about how they use their convection oven but it will require a generator (probably two) to do so. Again, it does "depend on how ya camp".

If you are going to order a new 25 consider a couple of things about the RB vs the FB. You will have to deal with a fridge fan on the RB and when you back into your site you will always sit at the table and look at the back of your truck.
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Old 07-12-2017, 04:35 PM   #18
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The 25RB Airstreams have a propane oven/cooktop and a convection/microwave oven over the fridge. She likes the propane when boon docking and convection oven when in full hookups. The bedroom is also located in the rear where it should be, and a quiet fridge fan replacement is about $12 if you need one. In 1400 nights camping we have never looked out at the tailgate of our truck, we disconnect and park alongside because you usually have to, and we need the truck on its own. Unless staying at Walmart where the view isn't that great. We have seen a lot of RB Airstreams parked in RV resorts where the view out back is into the living room window of the fifth wheel parked behind them.
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Old 07-12-2017, 04:52 PM   #19
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I've had several trailers with the propane cooktop/oven (range). In those trailers I purchased a small microwave and/or a small countertop convection oven. This is what I have in my Safari. Both ride on the dinette cushion while I travel (never moved in thousands of miles) and set on a folding table once we arrive at our campsite.

In my Excella I have a propane cooktop without an oven. The microwave/convection oven does ok. I would rather have the propane oven for those times there are no hookups.
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Old 07-12-2017, 06:19 PM   #20
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My 2017 classic came with both I would have rather had the extra drawers in place of the microwave/confection oven.
The gas oven is awesome accurate temp and cooks great. I'm not much into the microwave to many bad things go along with them. A lot of countries they are banned.
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Also another thing to think about is ya can easily buy a small microwave and carry it with you, if needed, but tryin to carry a gas oven ain't so easy.
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Timely quotes

Just read these quotes and thought them not only timely but brings a light perspective to the thread...

"Cooking and eating under the stars is one of the biggest joys of road life"

"More to the point, if you’re cooking inside, you’re not outside, which was a major motivation for hitting the road in the first place." ~
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Just read these quotes and thought them not only timely but brings a light perspective to the thread...

"Cooking and eating under the stars is one of the biggest joys of road life"

"More to the point, if you’re cooking inside, you’re not outside, which was a major motivation for hitting the road in the first place." ~
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Those are nice quotes. I love cookin outside. But not when it's rainin. And not when its freezin. And not when the mosquitoes are so bad you're breathin them up your nose. Also not when I'm stealth campin on a side street. Or when I'm Walmart campin. Or when I'm at a rest stop that don't allow gas stoves or fires. Or when the forest service has a fire ban.

I think ya get my point. One sees a lot of different conditions in 10-12 months of travel and one may wanna be prepared for em.
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Those are nice quotes. I love cookin outside. But not when it's rainin. And not when its freezin. And not when the mosquitoes are so bad you're breathin them up your nose. Also not when I'm stealth campin on a side street. Or when I'm Walmart campin. Or when I'm at a rest stop that don't allow gas stoves or fires. Or when the forest service has a fire ban.

I think ya get my point. One sees a lot of different conditions in 10-12 months of travel and one may wanna be prepared for em.
Amen, truth in those words!

The best thing you can take camping is an alternate plan. When conditions are as described (and it happens) our preparedness plan is to head into town and enjoy some of the fine local dining, drink and culture til the rain stops, mosquitoes aren't so bad, temps improve or fire ban lifted or move to the next location. In which case gas or convection in the Airstream becomes moot. We have that flexibility and that's why we live this mobile life, isn't it.

Ah, the pleasures of Airstreaming 🤗
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Amen, truth in those words!

The best thing you can take camping is an alternate plan. When conditions are as described (and it happens) our preparedness plan is to head into town and enjoy some of the fine local dining, drink and culture til the rain stops, mosquitoes aren't so bad, temps improve or fire ban lifted or move to the next location. In which case gas or convection in the Airstream becomes moot. We have that flexibility and that's why we live this mobile life, isn't it.

Ah, the pleasures of Airstreaming 🤗
I love doin that, too. Unless I'm boondockin 20 miles into the forest. In which case, I use my gas oven.

Also, I find the only thing better than an alternate plan is havin no plan at all!

Happy campin!
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FYI this thread in the Stella's Kitchen forum has over 500 posts from fans of the gas oven, microwave, and convection oven.

http://www.airforums.com/forums/f484...ven-28619.html

We have and use only the gas oven. We bought the current FC20 in part because it had a gas oven. Would not own a trailer without one.

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I second that. I use the gas almost every day but definitely every trip. You do not have to worry about having hookups or using the generator to make dinner. I use the microwave to reheat but that only takes a few minutes. Useing a convection oven you have to put up with the fan noise the whole time you are cooking. The gas oven is silent and cooked everything from cake to a frozen pizza just like at home.
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