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Old 02-05-2016, 07:55 PM   #547
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Yes bold - those look fantastic!!

I must say - this style of chair so far has absolutely blown me away

I now use my Helinox one chair on so many trips - in airstream - short backpacking - canoe camping - events - and I love em

Those you have are a bit bigger - I wanna try one!
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Oh but now more than a year use of our lafumas and these remain an absolute staple
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BoldAdventure: What's the difference between the Big Agnes -Helinox Camp Chair and the Helinox Sunset Camp Chair which is $10 more?
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BoldAdventure: What's the difference between the Big Agnes -Helinox Camp Chair and the Helinox Sunset Camp Chair which is $10 more?
The Sunset the back comes up behind the head, so you have full neck support. The Camp Chair only comes up to your shoulders, so you can't lean your head back. Otherwise, they are the same shape and size.
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Well I ordered a Helinox Sunset Camp Chair yesterday. Now I will be able to report on a direct comparison between my Kermits and the Helinox. Does anyone offer the accessory ball feet to put on the legs to keep them from sinking. I saw some for the Chair One but I hear they don't fit the Sunset.
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1 year in - I feel that I will never worry about accessory feet - ymmv

I've ised direct on sand in destin (for example) and yes it sinks some but stops and all is well

I recall someone on the web using two length of small electrical conduit as rails for feet - others used like some small tennis balls -

I won't bother with any of it - but give it a go first and see

I'm not aware of any formal accessories made ad sold

One accessory I want to make for mine is an "under quilt"

http://wildernesslogics.com/images/CHAIR%20QUILT.jpg

Keeps the bum toasty - I use a simple down jacket hung beneath to the same effect but I want to make one that fits my chair for colder conditions
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1 year in - I feel that I will never worry about accessory feet - ymmv
Thanks, I will try it without and see how it goes...
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Ok, here's a comparison between the Kermit chair and the Helinox Sunset chair. This is based on me spending 20 minutes with the Helinox and 3 years with the Kermits, so my opinion may change as I get more experience with the Helinox.

Overall comfort: Helinox wins
Sitting position: Kermit preferred, more upright, ymmv
Ease to get in/out: Same
Price: Same
Time to assemble: Helinox by narrow margin
Size when disassembled in bag: Helinox by narrow margin
Weight: Helinox
Armrests: Kermit, not available from Helinox
Drink holder: Kermit, not available from Helinox
Durability/Longevity: This is where Kermit wins hands down. I don't believe Helinox's shock cord design will hold up compared to the Kermit's simple bullet proof design. The Kermits will last for generations. This has been testified to by owners of Kermits in the motorcycle community that have used them for decades.

So, hard choice. Best option is to own both of them.
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Wow!! But price same really?
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I don't think you can compare the durability without actually testing it, sorry that's an unfair assessment you leveled and a bit biased. I also find it hard to believe a wood chair folds down to the same compact size.
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I don't think you can compare the durability without actually testing it, sorry that's an unfair assessment you leveled and a bit biased. I also find it hard to believe a wood chair folds down to the same compact size.

Have you seen the Kermit packed away? By far the smallest package of any camp chair I have ever owned. I wouldn't want to use them for backpacking due to weight but they pack small and are reasonably comfortable.

I cannot speak to the durability of the Helinox but I can repair anything that might befall the Kermit including old age.
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Could you possibly post a picture of the two bags next to each other? I like things that last a long time.
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Wow!! But price same really?
I paid $149 on Amazon for the Helinox Sunset. They are $174 on the Helinox website. The Kermits are $139 plus $40 for the leg extensions on the Kermit website. You can find them for less on ebay sometimes.
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I don't think you can compare the durability without actually testing it, sorry that's an unfair assessment you leveled and a bit biased.
I just don't think nylon shock cords will last as long as steel and wood...I may be wrong...
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