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12-11-2012, 09:03 PM
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Rivet Master
2007 30' Classic
Oswego
, Illinois
Join Date: Jul 2010
Posts: 13,669
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There is actually long term marketing brilliance going on here. The same outrage occurred in the auto industry several times. When they come back, in a long term strategy, it causes a buzz which extends across the entire brand.....
Camaro
Malibu
Caprice
What if some came back when the company still retains trademark rights?
Chevelle
Monza
Nomad
Belaire
Like wine, sometimes you let it go for and "aged" reintroduction.
(and in my twisted world, I like things like Corvair and Spider turbo. I think the time is right for an new ROBUST killer Corvair off the Solstice/Sky platform. THAT'S Bold, and also why I'll never run the company!)
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"If the women don't find you handsome, they should at least find you handy." - Red Green
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12-11-2012, 10:13 PM
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Rivet Master
2013 25' Flying Cloud
Cat City
, California
Join Date: Sep 2012
Posts: 854
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I think the new Land Yacht is a move in the right design direction, but it is primarily a superficial "decoration" (skins) effort more than anything fundamental. I like the ultra-contemporary and sleek design aesthetic, and I hope they keep moving in that direction. The CCD was a kind of start, and this Italian Job keeps up the momentum.
And yes, they really DO need a broader selection of fabrics and flooring. It's quite limited.
I hope the annual production of trailers is still on the rise. Does anyone know?
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12-12-2012, 12:34 AM
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Rivet Master
1978 28' Ambassador
Morada
, California
Join Date: Jan 2006
Posts: 1,584
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Re the Bambi, that current brochure clearly mentions at the bottom of the model listing page that ALL single axle trailers are referred to as Bambi's, with some added info about 50 years with that model name...
The first picture of the Land yacht model, 'floated' at the Kentucky RV show sure was taken with a strange perspective - till you figure out that there is a full length mirror on the right - pulling back to show the foreground 'border' of the mirror would sure have helped explain that view, IMHO...
I don't think there's much danger of our old 'Ambassador' model being reissued... Just as well, as I'd hate having our oldie being mistaken for a 'new' rig - yeah, right!
Keep dry, warm & safe out there during this holiday season...
Ray & Patricia
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12-12-2012, 06:58 AM
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Rivet Master
2006 23' Safari SE
Biloxi
, Mississippi
Join Date: Nov 2011
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Good catch on the mirror shot. I thought it looked a little out of wack but could not figure out why. The perspective was just not right.
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Do you know what a learning experience is? A learning experience is one of those things that says "You know that thing that you just did? Don't do that."
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12-12-2012, 07:33 AM
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4 Rivet Member
2001 16' Bambi
2013 23' International
Piedmont Region
, North Carolina
Join Date: Aug 2006
Posts: 408
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Recycled Names
I have absolutely no problem with the recycled names, think it's a good idea in most cases but in the cases of "Bambi", no way I can see it as being 22' long. Readily admit I'm biased about all 16' of it..........
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12-12-2012, 08:50 AM
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Rivet Master
2015 25' FB Eddie Bauer
2013 25' FB Eddie Bauer
2012 20' Flying Cloud
Small Town
, *** Big Sky Country ***Western Montana
Join Date: Feb 2010
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Quote:
Originally Posted by Wazbro
Not sure when but at some point Airstream started calling all single axle trailers Bambi models.
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That has been my understanding as well - for several years now.
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Now it's more confusing. The brochure shows a "Flying Cloud 20 Bambi?" Funny stuff. I sense a bit of confusion possible.
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Mstephens ? ... not funny or confusing for me ... single axle, with Flying Cloud trim level, and ~ 20 feet long ... how is that confusing?
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2015 25' Eddie Bauer Int'l FBQ / 2023 Ford Lightning ER
2022 Ford F350 6.2 V-8; equalizer hitch + Shocker air hitch
Honda Eu3200; AIR# 44105; formerly WBCCI 2015.1
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12-12-2012, 09:51 AM
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banjobill
2000 30' Limited
battle ground,
, Washington
Join Date: Jun 2009
Posts: 516
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official name change
There is a pro NBA'r whose legal name is "World Peace." So I think ALL of the a/s that leak should be renamed "Edsel." All the ones with filiform "Spyder Veins." I am sure there are others...btw land yacht conjures up conestoga wagons or oversized mid 70's sedans.
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12-12-2012, 10:42 AM
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Rivet Master
2012 25' Flying Cloud
Battle Lake
, Minnesota
Join Date: Jun 2009
Posts: 7,714
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The Land Yacht concept trailer is a custom-fitted 27 FB shell? Perhaps an Eddie Bauer replacement when that contract expires with EB.
With the EB rear hatch engineering/production already in place, maybe that's a way to continue this popular feature in a pricey offering. How could the model sailboat/aircraft hobby guys resist it?
doug k
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12-12-2012, 11:19 AM
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Home of Vortex tuning
2013 27' FB Eddie Bauer
Spearfish
, South Dakota
Join Date: Dec 2009
Posts: 614
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Under the "??? crazy banner??"
The EB (2013 brochure) dropped the grey water tank and added an uprated 15500 A/C on my new in 1/3/13 unit?
Or typos just to tease me?
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12-12-2012, 02:08 PM
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Rivet Master
2006 23' Safari SE
Biloxi
, Mississippi
Join Date: Nov 2011
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How about a smaller EB style. Double axles would be nice so using the 23ftFB plan would work for me.
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Do you know what a learning experience is? A learning experience is one of those things that says "You know that thing that you just did? Don't do that."
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12-12-2012, 02:31 PM
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Rivet Master
2013 25' FB Flying Cloud
2011 23' FB Flying Cloud
Branson
, Missouri
Join Date: Apr 2004
Posts: 734
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Quote:
Originally Posted by mstephens
I think the new Land Yacht is a move in the right design direction, but it is primarily a superficial "decoration" (skins) effort more than anything fundamental. I like the ultra-contemporary and sleek design aesthetic, and I hope they keep moving in that direction. The CCD was a kind of start, and this Italian Job keeps up the momentum.
And yes, they really DO need a broader selection of fabrics and flooring. It's quite limited.
I hope the annual production of trailers is still on the rise. Does anyone know?
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In speaking with the GM of the nearby AS dealership, his evaluation of the Land Yacht was full of praise, and (in my mind) a major question.
The most notable feature (other than cosmetics) is the elimination of the Dometic AC. The overall height of the trailer is increased by two inches, and the AC is reconfigured to include overhead ducting, and a totally new AC design.
His additional comments addressed the fact that the Land Yacht would "upscale" even the upscale Classic.
I question the veracity of that, as Airstream is too damn expensive as it is. Do they (AS) want to further isolate themselves in terms of economics?
Interesting, to say the least.
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12-12-2012, 02:32 PM
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Jack Dog in So Cal
2013 16' Sport
Orange
, California
Join Date: Jul 2012
Posts: 138
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2013 Sport
On my 2013 16' Sport it has a blue oval emblem located just to the right
of the door that says "Sport". On the back of the trailer above the lic. plate light it has a black oval emblem that says "Bambi".
Mine is a very early 2013 unit so maybe the current ones have changed.
Jack Dog
in So Cal
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12-12-2012, 04:11 PM
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Restorations done right
Commercial Member
1962 26' Overlander
1961 26' Overlander
Vintage Kin Owner
Currently Looking...
Baltimore
, Maryland
Join Date: Aug 2007
Posts: 5,545
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now THAT, I would call a Bambi...
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12-12-2012, 04:36 PM
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Rivet Master
2015 25' FB Eddie Bauer
2013 25' FB Eddie Bauer
2012 20' Flying Cloud
Small Town
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Join Date: Feb 2010
Posts: 2,860
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Quote:
Originally Posted by AWCHIEF
How about a smaller EB style. Double axles would be nice so using the 23ftFB plan would work for me.
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Would you answer the call of nature out in nature, then? Or just keep the big door shut ...
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2015 25' Eddie Bauer Int'l FBQ / 2023 Ford Lightning ER
2022 Ford F350 6.2 V-8; equalizer hitch + Shocker air hitch
Honda Eu3200; AIR# 44105; formerly WBCCI 2015.1
Terminal Aluminitis; 2-people w/ 3+ dogs
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12-12-2012, 04:53 PM
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Rivet Master
2007 23' Safari SE
Central
, Connecticut
Join Date: Jul 2008
Posts: 1,652
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Quote:
Originally Posted by murreywalker
The most notable feature (other than cosmetics) is the elimination of the Dometic AC. The overall height of the trailer is increased by two inches, and the AC is reconfigured to include overhead ducting, and a totally new AC design.
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It also looks like there's a propane fireplace - rather nice, and a surprising boon for boondocking in this rather sleek trailer.
Got to say, I really like it (but could do without the hiding sink and cooktop). Probably my favorite of all of the recent flights of fancy from AS.
Tom
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12-12-2012, 04:55 PM
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Rivet Master
1978 28' Ambassador
Morada
, California
Join Date: Jan 2006
Posts: 1,584
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Re the Land Yacht model's AC & ducting...
If you look at the 4th & 5th pictures you can see the polished duct's ending in a 'lame' looking (IMHO) outlet vent - those vents look like they are just 'hanging' there - they should have put some Teak moulding around them or something to blend in with the wood work - they just look to 'bandaide' ticky-tacky to me...
Reworking the AC system into something unique for AS would be a big plus, in my book...everybody in the world just plops an AC unit through the roof and calls it done...time for something new and improved, as Wally might have said!
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12-12-2012, 05:20 PM
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Rivet Master
1967 26' Overlander
Winston Salem
, North Carolina
Join Date: Oct 2007
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All these name changes are confusing:
way back when,(50's) there were standard models, Land Yacht and International.
60's Land Yacht and International models
(my 67 says International Land Yacht, a travel trailer)
70's added Excella 500
80's Excella, Excella 1000 and Limited, for a time they made an International line and a 30ft Sovereign. Also in 80-81 they had an Excella II and Excella-Limited.
90's to present: too many. "Classic" name change was stupid, AS should have keeped it Excella.
I'm old school like Frank Y., how about some continuity over the years?
Car makers are guilty for this too.
Cadillac models were easy to understand, DeVille, Fleetwood Brougham, Seville and Eldorado. Now all these letters CTS,ATS ect..
Makes my head spin.
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Winston Salem, NC
WBCCI 5218,
Corresponding Secretary Piedmont NC Unit 161,
1967 Overlander International.
1979 Avion 30ft rear bath
TV's 88 Chevy Suburban 454, 3:42, TH400
95 Cadillac FW Brougham, LT1,3:42, 7k tow pk.
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12-12-2012, 05:31 PM
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Rivet Master
2010 27' FB Flying Cloud
Fraser Valley
, British Columbia
Join Date: Jan 2011
Posts: 2,966
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A rose is a rose is a rose.
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12-12-2012, 05:34 PM
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Restorations done right
Commercial Member
1962 26' Overlander
1961 26' Overlander
Vintage Kin Owner
Currently Looking...
Baltimore
, Maryland
Join Date: Aug 2007
Posts: 5,545
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yes it is when you own a late model trailer. "If" you were a vintage owner, a rose is not 16 foot, 18 foot, 21 foot, 24 foot, 26 foot, or 30 foot. A rose would be a rose. By 2010 it has been diluted to full extent. Enjoy your rose. I will enjoy my 26 footer also known as an Overlander.
I think it best I unsubscribe now. I am just going to inflame many late model owners. Enjoy the chat....
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12-12-2012, 06:04 PM
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Rivet Master
2006 23' Safari SE
Biloxi
, Mississippi
Join Date: Nov 2011
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Quote:
Originally Posted by mefly2
Would you answer the call of nature out in nature, then? Or just keep the big door shut ...
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It was just a dream, still working out all the details.
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