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Old 12-12-2012, 12:19 PM   #29
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Under the "??? crazy banner??"
The EB (2013 brochure) dropped the grey water tank and added an uprated 15500 A/C on my new in 1/3/13 unit?

Or typos just to tease me?
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Old 12-12-2012, 03:08 PM   #30
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How about a smaller EB style. Double axles would be nice so using the 23ftFB plan would work for me.
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Old 12-12-2012, 03:31 PM   #31
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I think the new Land Yacht is a move in the right design direction, but it is primarily a superficial "decoration" (skins) effort more than anything fundamental. I like the ultra-contemporary and sleek design aesthetic, and I hope they keep moving in that direction. The CCD was a kind of start, and this Italian Job keeps up the momentum.

And yes, they really DO need a broader selection of fabrics and flooring. It's quite limited.

I hope the annual production of trailers is still on the rise. Does anyone know?
In speaking with the GM of the nearby AS dealership, his evaluation of the Land Yacht was full of praise, and (in my mind) a major question.

The most notable feature (other than cosmetics) is the elimination of the Dometic AC. The overall height of the trailer is increased by two inches, and the AC is reconfigured to include overhead ducting, and a totally new AC design.

His additional comments addressed the fact that the Land Yacht would "upscale" even the upscale Classic.

I question the veracity of that, as Airstream is too damn expensive as it is. Do they (AS) want to further isolate themselves in terms of economics?

Interesting, to say the least.
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Old 12-12-2012, 03:32 PM   #32
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On my 2013 16' Sport it has a blue oval emblem located just to the rightClick image for larger version

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ID:	174515 of the door that says "Sport". On the back of the trailer above the lic. plate light it has a black oval emblem that says "Bambi".

Mine is a very early 2013 unit so maybe the current ones have changed.

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Old 12-12-2012, 05:11 PM   #33
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now THAT, I would call a Bambi...
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Old 12-12-2012, 05:36 PM   #34
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How about a smaller EB style. Double axles would be nice so using the 23ftFB plan would work for me.
Would you answer the call of nature out in nature, then? Or just keep the big door shut ...
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Old 12-12-2012, 05:53 PM   #35
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The most notable feature (other than cosmetics) is the elimination of the Dometic AC. The overall height of the trailer is increased by two inches, and the AC is reconfigured to include overhead ducting, and a totally new AC design.
It also looks like there's a propane fireplace - rather nice, and a surprising boon for boondocking in this rather sleek trailer.

Got to say, I really like it (but could do without the hiding sink and cooktop). Probably my favorite of all of the recent flights of fancy from AS.

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Old 12-12-2012, 05:55 PM   #36
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Re the Land Yacht model's AC & ducting...

If you look at the 4th & 5th pictures you can see the polished duct's ending in a 'lame' looking (IMHO) outlet vent - those vents look like they are just 'hanging' there - they should have put some Teak moulding around them or something to blend in with the wood work - they just look to 'bandaide' ticky-tacky to me...

Reworking the AC system into something unique for AS would be a big plus, in my book...everybody in the world just plops an AC unit through the roof and calls it done...time for something new and improved, as Wally might have said!
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Old 12-12-2012, 06:20 PM   #37
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All these name changes are confusing:

way back when,(50's) there were standard models, Land Yacht and International.

60's Land Yacht and International models
(my 67 says International Land Yacht, a travel trailer)

70's added Excella 500

80's Excella, Excella 1000 and Limited, for a time they made an International line and a 30ft Sovereign. Also in 80-81 they had an Excella II and Excella-Limited.

90's to present: too many. "Classic" name change was stupid, AS should have keeped it Excella.

I'm old school like Frank Y., how about some continuity over the years?

Car makers are guilty for this too.
Cadillac models were easy to understand, DeVille, Fleetwood Brougham, Seville and Eldorado. Now all these letters CTS,ATS ect..

Makes my head spin.
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Old 12-12-2012, 06:31 PM   #38
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Old 12-12-2012, 06:34 PM   #39
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yes it is when you own a late model trailer. "If" you were a vintage owner, a rose is not 16 foot, 18 foot, 21 foot, 24 foot, 26 foot, or 30 foot. A rose would be a rose. By 2010 it has been diluted to full extent. Enjoy your rose. I will enjoy my 26 footer also known as an Overlander.
I think it best I unsubscribe now. I am just going to inflame many late model owners. Enjoy the chat....
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Old 12-12-2012, 07:04 PM   #40
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Would you answer the call of nature out in nature, then? Or just keep the big door shut ...
It was just a dream, still working out all the details.
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Old 12-12-2012, 07:39 PM   #41
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I'm still confused that Airstream got rid of 16' Bambis in uplevel International or CCD trims like Bruce's fabulous trailer. And they got rid of the 23' L-lounge floor plan that we own (and love). Oh well...

I also agree that calling a 22' trailer "Bambi" seems (literally) like a stretch.

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Hey,
How did I miss this????
We have a "fabulous trailer". Actually, Dorsey and I always knew it was fabulous (and we never questioned that it was a legitimate Bambi) but it is nice to know that someone else notices its virtues.
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Old 12-13-2012, 06:43 AM   #42
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Yep - there is something that I find intrinsically pleasing about a stylish and compact trailer. Like a little jewel. We started out wanting a 16' CCD when we started this journey and some of that remains...

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