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Old 04-18-2016, 11:40 AM   #1
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Airstreams - Corvettes - Harley Davidson

Three big ICONS with tires. They have a lot in common.

1- They are imbedded within the culture of North America
2- They are expensive relative to other similar options
3- The owners of late models are 'late models' (mature... owners)
4- Each are less practical for their specific uses
5- The depreciation curve is steep for the first four years of ownership
6- They each are 'status' purchases, if you agree or not
7- They each require maintenance and 'upgrades' for specific uses
8- Industries are built around the servicing and upgrading for individual tastes
9- Each become collectable after decades of manufacture with price increases

These points have been researched heavily in the last eight minutes.

I do see an overlap of ownership at the present or over the life of the current owners. From extensive metaphysical thought on this subject... I would offer the vision that most Airstream owners have had or currently have TWO of these three Icons.

As you already have figured out, this is tossing out an idea to find if there is some truth in any of the points above. Point #4... low clearances for two. Road bikes not very practical as dirt bikes... you get the idea?

I purposely avoided the traits of those who are members of organizations that share one or more of these Icons. Although, through some casual considerations there are also over lapping true statements to be discovered in these associations as well.

Like Corvair Clubs. When they were being built, Corvair and Corvette were confused from the beginning. Both had low clearances and any other comparison was an... insult to one of the owners.

What say you, the 'pundits of nostalgia'? Is there a 'ring of truth' or just a discarded Marathon tire to be made into five pair of Sandals?
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Old 04-18-2016, 11:53 AM   #2
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Is there a 'ring of truth' or just a discarded Marathon tire to be made into five pair of Sandals?
I think I'll retire (get it?), move to Marathon Key, accept discarded Marathon tire donations, and start a factory making Marathon sandals.

"I blew out my flip flop, stepped on a pop top", replaced my sole with a Michelin...
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Old 04-18-2016, 12:08 PM   #3
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I'm very familiar with #9! It costs a lot of money and time to restore an icon. When owners brag about how their Harley, 'vette or Airstream have been around for 40 or fifty years, they fail to tell you how much money it took to make it "as good as new".
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Old 04-18-2016, 12:20 PM   #4
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Why yes, I did own a Corvette, before the Airstream, although the Corvette is now gone. My neighbor has a Harley. The big "but" is that the Harley and the Corvette are well made and actually require little other than routine maintenance; each will last a long time with relatively simple routine maintenance. Airstream, conversely, is sold as an icon, but is really made no better than a cheap piece of XXXX. Try to get to anything to do maintenance! I think your icons have less in common than you suggest.
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Old 04-18-2016, 12:35 PM   #5
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I would generalize even further and say that achieving premium status for your brand is always worth it, because the extra amount you can sell a premium brand for usually far exceeds the extra amount it costs to produce it, compared with a non-premium product. Other examples would include Snap-on tools, BMW motorcycles (and possibly their cars too, but I don't have any personal experience with them), and Rolex watches. My experience is that the performance of premium brands exceeds the performance of non-premium brands a little, but not enough to justify the extra cost. The nice thing about having a premium brand is that most consumers innately know that they really aren't getting their full money's worth for it, but they don't care!


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Old 04-18-2016, 06:39 PM   #6
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Old 04-18-2016, 07:52 PM   #8
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The Corvette at one point in time did somewhat meet your criterion. Fibreglass cracked, engines and transmissions were no better than some competition and they did not handle well. However, that all started changing in the 80's. Each new version is better. For the performance they deliver, the late models are reasonably priced, quite well engineered, and built with significant care and attention. They do their intended purpose , and there are several of them, quite well. There are pony car competitors, but a well driven Corvette is still a better performer. It has a low center of gravity, low aero profile and looks great. Sounds like an AS, right.

I was impressed when I visited the Corvette factory. I was not impressed when I visited JC. So there is a big difference from that perspective. AS management could be hitting it out of the park if they purchased dinner each month for a group of Airstream employee children who are working at Honda. They would have to listen. The Icon would change, but I don't think corporate profitability or the smiles would fade.

Now, Harleys.......if you like them and enjoy them, good for you. I find them more Icon than solution. The old ones shook and leaked. But folks could work on them and they got a lot of riders down the road for a lot of miles, one thump at a time. The newer vintages are better designed and built. They provide folks with a lot of fun and recreation. However, there are a lot of Harley riders that move to BMWs if they really ride a lot. One of the engineers I knew, who could and did buy what he wanted, purchased a Honda V-twin cruiser. A friend bought a Honda and rode it every day. He bought a Harley and sold it a year later. Some bad luck, some Harley baggage. My Brother would give his eye teeth to trade his Honda for a Harley. The only Harley he ever owned left him stranded in Colorado, but he still is hooked by the Icon.

Guess it's all about dreams. Travel safe and enjoy the dream. Pat
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Boy, clearly we've got some motor heads in our clan.

I love that double woodie combo, beautiful!

And how do you chose which to drive when you have a garage FULL of vettes

I'd like to add my classic combo for consideration, I feel they fit all of the criteria pretty well.

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We saw a Chrysler woody sedan with a matching wood tear drop trailer that the owner built from a vintage set of magazine plans. Very cool ride, except no AC.

Yes, the Porsche fits the niche. Usually quite well. We had a friend who rebuilt his 356. Bad move. He spent so much money making it cherry, his wife would not let him race it any more. She probably saved him a ton of money down the road.

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Boy, clearly we've got some motor heads in our clan.

I love that double woodie combo, beautiful!

And how do you chose which to drive when you have a garage FULL of vettes

I'd like to add my classic combo for consideration, I feel they fit all of the criteria pretty well.

Cheers Richard
Nice rig and a toad with attitude tevake. You rotate to keep batteries charged and fluids flowing
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Old 04-18-2016, 08:34 PM   #12
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Makes me remember the scuffed knuckles and smell of burnt oil on the exhaust manifold, after adjusting a noisy hydraulic lifter at the Owl Inn in Cheyenne, Wyoming, seeing all that fiber glass! Newbies always wanted to see how the Corvette was bolted together without seams...

Working on cars gives you the experience and mechanical aptitude to own an Airstream. I still hate drum brakes compared to disc... but some things you have to live with.

I would have thought that Airstream would be confident that their trailers could last for the long haul. Installing an odometer relayed off an axle/wheel would not be a bad idea. Well, would be bad if it did not work and was easily disconnected.

At least the 50's and 60's Corvettes you could pull an engine, find the distributor and spark plugs under the static hardware. If a fuel injection was not working, you could install the original manifold with Holly yourself... or if stock on some, the Carter carburetor. Better yet if they did not have California pollution systems in the later 60's and beyond it did not get in your way.

If my Tundra needed plugs replaced or the engine pulled... time to trade it in before that was needed.
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Old 04-18-2016, 08:43 PM   #13
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Your so right Ray. Now days you need Air Forums or You Tube to work on things. I find that You Tube is the teacher for all....good and bad.
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No vettes here, Do have a Harley, tho engine by Porsche.
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