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overlander63 · 09-13-2016, 05:38 AM

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Originally Posted by Boxite

This rant is crocodile-tears. At a dealership, all customers have the right to inspect/peruse the merchandise.

THEY MOST CERTAINLY DO NOT HAVE ANY RIGHT WHATSOEVER TO TOUCH ANY OTHER PERSON'S PERSONAL PROPERTY!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

I was standing next to the trailer, in my company issued uniform, with both of the new owners standing next to me, while I explained how to deploy their awnings. The large blue "SOLD" sign, as well as the license plate on the back, must also have been invisible.

"Crocodile-Tears"? Really?
Next time I see you at a campground, I'm going to walk up to your RV, and start rifling through it, remind you of this conversation, and see what you have to say then.

overlander63 · 09-13-2016, 05:44 AM

Looks like this ruffled a few feathers.

GOOD.

This is not the first time, it is not overreacting, and I have stood in the office at a campground and listened to Airstream owners demanding something because they felt they were owed something because of the brand of trailer they own. I have been at other RV dealers that refuse to touch an Airstream, because the Airstreamers have such a rotten reputation of demanding unreasonable services just because of the brand of trailer they own. Such as, demanding their entire trailer be washed and waxed because a technician left three dirty fingerprints on the exterior.
There are many more examples of these incidents I could list, but I have to leave for work.

Denial isn't just a river in Egypt...

overlander63 · 09-13-2016, 05:45 AM

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Originally Posted by John&Vicki

Generalizing from this single event to convicting Airstreamers of arrogance seems like a real reach to me.

John

It is not a single instance, just the latest instance. And not all, or even close to all, at a dealership, where people seem to be expected to act like complete asshats.

xrvr · 09-13-2016, 05:49 AM

Good response. I had a similar thing happen to me although it wasn't on a dealers lot. I had my BMW mc parked outside a cafe where I could see it. Two men came up and started to look at the bike, not unusual, but one started to bang the windshield with a rolled up newspaper every time he spoke. I ran out to stop him. His response was its okay I own the same bike. So I asked him if he bangs the ws on his bike and if he did could I go and hit it like he's hitting mine. He stopped and walked away without saying anything more. Some people just don't think!

xrvr · 09-13-2016, 05:52 AM

Some seem to think display trailers are there to treat roughly, slamming drawers, pulling on doors, generally misusing the vehicle to check its toughness. Then someone eventually buys this trailer with the hidden damage and comes on the forums to complain. Sometimes the enemy is us, no AS.

lsbrodsky · 09-13-2016, 05:55 AM

The surprise to me is that anyone seems surprised. We have all seen this kind of entitled behavior our entire lives at stores, around cars, boats, RV's, in parking lots, at restaurants, etc. I have seen it even worse in Europe as a nationality thing, Americans, French, Germans, does not seem to matter.
I go for what makes me feel good at the time, usually a pithy remark, which no doubt has zero effect.
Larry

overlander63 · 09-13-2016, 07:07 AM

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Originally Posted by lsbrodsky

The surprise to me is that anyone seems surprised. We have all seen this kind of entitled behavior our entire lives at stores, around cars, boats, RV's, in parking lots, at restaurants, etc. I have seen it even worse in Europe as a nationality thing, Americans, French, Germans, does not seem to matter.
I go for what makes me feel good at the time, usually a pithy remark, which no doubt has zero effect.
Larry

We as a group should strive to do better, and be a good example. Not an embarrassment.

AWCHIEF · 09-13-2016, 07:31 AM

"Airstreamer Arrogance"

Title seems a bit unfair to me. After five years of hanging out around other Airstream owners they come across as some of the friendliest most inclusive people I have ever associated with. Personally I am very proud of my Airstream ownership but certainly do not think I cross the line to arrogance.

Lily&Me · 09-13-2016, 07:33 AM

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Originally Posted by John&Vicki

Generalizing from this single event to convicting Airstreamers of arrogance seems like a real reach to me.

John

I agree with this statement.

Bad manners on the part of one Airstreamer does not generalize to an assumption of the same by all.

Maggie

crispyboy · 09-13-2016, 07:52 AM

This guys sounds like a complete asshat to me - he was raised to think being rude is ok with no common courtesy for the people, salesmen or dealers merchandise. There are many folks in todays society that are not raised with manners.

BAB · 09-13-2016, 08:53 AM

Here's my $.02. I have bought two new Airstreams at Terry's dealership. He did my pre-delivery walk through both times. If Terry is as upset as this post indicates, this was more than idle provocation. So, if he had been doing the my pre-delivery on a trailer I had ordered (and had made a deposit on), and a third party began doing this to what was soon to be MY trailer, I would have been furious. Moreover, this trailer had a SOLD sign on it as well as temporary license tags. There is no excuse for this kind of behavior.

**Rocinante** · 09-13-2016, 09:24 AM

When we go looky-loo at new Airstreams at our local dealership, we love to walk through them, look in the closets, sit on the chairs, and look in the storage compartments outside and think about whether we should upgrade.

That said, we only do that with trailers that are obviously on display for that express purpose. Any trailer with a "sold" sign in the window and folks taking delivery is, equally obviously, off limits.

So, some folks have no clue how behave in even moderately polite society. Why is it a surprise when we see them at the Airstream dealership vs. elsewhere?

Anyhow, I recommend reducing your stress levels earlier by succinctly and clearly telling such an individual this particular trailer is off limits for visitors, and why, and then redirect them to a similar model elsewhere on the lot. That way you don't have to get all mad and vent here in the forum when the person who did that rude thing is incredibly unlikely to see it, and even if they did, they wouldn't recognize themselves. It's like spanking a dog hours later for pooping on your floor. Doesn't do any good, even if it makes you feel better for a few minutes. Next day, the dog will do the same thing again because it never got the message. Same with "customers" on your lot.

xrvr · 09-13-2016, 09:34 AM

With all the warning signs, telling this person the trailer was off limits would have fallen deaf ears.

overlander63 · 09-13-2016, 04:24 PM

I see there are some interesting responses. Some I expected, and some, honestly, I did not--at least, not from those persons.
One other thing now that has again become apparent: Just like in most other forums, not only did many people not read the entire thread before responding, many did not even bother reading the entire first post in this thread before responding.

DanB · 09-13-2016, 04:59 PM

Boy, I just have to say I see nothing good coming from this thread. Seems like it is just generating negative vibes.....

Zybane · 09-13-2016, 05:01 PM

I would have told the guy to beat it. I would just chalk it up to the significant amount of stupid/ignorant/crap people that we have to share the planet with.