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Old 05-02-2016, 07:18 AM   #1
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Airstream toward France.

Hello.
As can the understanding by my introduction topic, I launch the topic.

So I'm e Frenchie felling in love of the beautiful glow caravan.

But I already said that in my presentation.

And I would apologize again. for my language defects.

Then I'll talk about the search for my dreams object.

An Airstream.

Obvious here on this forum.

And here also for the country. Also there is very little Airstream in Europe.

The exact definition of my research according to its use and future traffic locations.

For size.

I would like a two-axle. For a stability advantage and a pleasant road behavior.

Use in Europe is difficult for big size.

Campground facilities and roads in Europe are not suited to big size.
As he seems to be in the USA.

So the smallest in two axles. 24" seems to be the minimum.

From what I've had some information, a 29" seems a large reasonable maximum.

But I have not managed to find the exact dimensions of the different models.
Lengths are included it with the tongue, or just the body without the tongue ?

Another concern.
For my use, I also would like to have a rear bed. So center bath.

As regards of the Airstream part, the bases are laid.

Next... Yes next.

Because.

Come in your country just to take a caravan.

And...

For just a small piece of your heritage leaving for another continent.
Sad for you.

And a pleasure for me be null.

Now I am away from America. I also do not know.

So I want to the discovery adding the program.

To do this, I plan the purchase a vehicle in addition to an Airstream.

The program becomes :

Purchase West Coast nearby.

And following a tourist road toward the East Coast.

The project is this for the main.

So I have a lot to learn for this project.

And find solution to many problems.

Describing this to you, I would sharing the fun whit you to developing this project.
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Old 05-02-2016, 07:34 AM   #2
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Suggest looking at the this overview as the trailers are already EU compatible.

http://www.airstream-europe.com

There is a selection by flag for France in French.
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Old 05-02-2016, 12:23 PM   #3
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No.

US trailers are not compatible with EU standards.

In terms of functions of all trailer, there are:

The weight of the tongue that seems much more important to the US trailers.
The braking system.
The braking system is totally unknown in EU.
So ... Not approved too.

The rear lights.
In USA, the operation is different and sockets too. Inevitably .

As regards RV, standards also its different.

For the gas system. inter alia.

That's why you can not ride with a new or recent Airstream from the USA.

Also, there is an importer "Airstream Europe" which sells new Airstream.
And made specifically for Europe.
But I find them without America's character.

Also, out of my means.

The solution for Airstream in France, is to have more than thirty years trailer.

This allows a particular statute in France.
"Vintage vehicle" ... Or translate "Collection vehicle".

So I can use your systems.

For the electric brake.

And for the lights, the change is easy to do for me.

The weight on tongue... No problem for me.

Because I will tow with a US vehicle.

A Suburban 1999 6.5 td.

It will just put a brake control unit.

I am ready.

doubtful ...

A little.

Greeting for your interest.
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Old 05-02-2016, 12:38 PM   #4
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There is a long history of US Airstreams being taken to Europe, as an alternative to buying a European specification trailer.

Recently a European unit of WBCCI was formed and the first European Rally is scheduled for the BelRepayre Airstream and Retro Trailer Park in the south of France. That unit is made up of approx 50/50 new (European spec) and Vintage (imported) Airstream.

I suggest you reach out to those folks and get an idea of what can be done as they will have real experience.

The Europe unit Facebook page is https://www.facebook.com/groups/1158314840861479/ and the link to WBCCI Europe is http://europe.wbcci.net/
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Old 05-03-2016, 04:27 AM   #5
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Check your local government agency to see if they will "allow" electric brakes etc. The electric drum brakes were baned to keep the American RV industry from coming over along with weight distribution hitches. Thus the very low tongue weights and surge brake systems seen on the tow behind trailers in the UK and continent.

You may find that the trailer has to be converted to surge brakes, which could be a challenge to find one strong enough mechanically to handle our higher tongue weights.
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Old 05-03-2016, 10:48 AM   #6
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Interesting, while touring France two years ago, I did not see any two or more axle Travel trailors! When I inquired about this I was told extra axles were taxed more and tolls were exsessive. Did I hear wrong?
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Hello.
I've been away these last few days.
I am delighted the interest that is brought to my research.
I need a moment to process all your answers.
Thank you, and I comes back.
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Old 05-13-2016, 09:50 AM   #8
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There is a long history of US Airstreams being taken to Europe, as an alternative to buying a European specification trailer.



As I already said, I would like a more authentic model than for EU




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Recently a European unit of WBCCI was formed and the first European Rally is scheduled for the BelRepayre Airstream and Retro Trailer Park in the south of France. That unit is made up of approx 50/50 new (European spec) and Vintage (imported) Airstream.



Yes.
BelRepayre, I know.
I went early this year.
I've had good information.




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The Europe unit Facebook page is https://www.facebook.com/groups/1158314840861479/ and the link to WBCCI Europe is http://europe.wbcci.net/


I noticed all this.
Thank you.
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Old 05-13-2016, 10:11 AM   #9
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Check your local government agency to see if they will "allow" electric brakes etc. ...



The French law allows these trailers.


If it has more than thirty years.


This allows the status collection vehicle.


With this, the features of a Airstream are allowed me.
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Old 05-14-2016, 08:32 AM   #10
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One thing to mention that you need to consider in your plan, which is different in the US to Europe. Trailers have their own registration plates here. To register a vehicle you need insurance coverage (it is the proof of insurance) and the proof of sale (normally the title from the PO) so any plan you may consider about buying a trailer and driving across the US before taking to Europe will have to include a solution to this.


Also, if you do not have a permanent residence in the US and have not owned the vehicle for a period of time, you will have to pay duty on importation. If you have owned the vehicle for a period of time and can show you have used it, and have been a permanent US resident then you don't - there are registration charges that apply but not duty.

Typically the companies that have purchased US trailers and imported to Europe are charging a premium because they have done this for you.
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Old 05-14-2016, 12:49 PM   #12
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Helloooo.


I like the evocation of concrete problems.
And specific to the USA
It is also whys I introduced myself here.


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One thing to mention that you need to consider in your plan, which is different in the US to Europe. Trailers have their own registration plates here. To register a vehicle you need insurance coverage (it is the proof of insurance) and the proof of sale (normally the title from the PO) so any plan you may consider about buying a trailer and driving across the US before taking to Europe will have to include a solution to this.




In France, also a trailer to its own registration.
This with a trailer over 500kg


Oupsssss....
1 100 Lbs !


And of course his insurance.


The question here is already submitted to me.
This said by friends living in the USA.
The question is all the more important I think to buy a car for my stay.


The solution that was suggested to me is to establish me a address for service in a friend.
This was good for similar adventures.




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Also, if you do not have a permanent residence in the US and have not owned the vehicle for a period of time, you will have to pay duty on importation. If you have owned the vehicle for a period of time and can show you have used it, and have been a permanent US resident then you don't - there are registration charges that apply but not duty.



Yes.


One or two vehicles that I will bring in France will be as an import.


With customs duties and taxes.


Ae the wallet... .

So when we like ... .


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Typically the companies that have purchased US trailers and imported to Europe are charging a premium because they have done this for you.
Some friends of mine has ever been asked companies to import vehicles.

There are alot of available services.


Vehicle research, financial transaction, transport on the USA territory, organizing transport by boat.


A service must be paid.
Of course.


There is a way to do that is unknown for these companies.


Enjoy with buying for travel to USA for a period.


I want to develop this.
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How about this model?

Jim
She is beautiful.

But I prefer models after 1969.

For just the form.
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Old 12-13-2016, 08:10 AM   #14
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Hellooo.

My research has not stopped.

It was laborious. For this, I did not share the progression.
But there is passion.

The story of my desire has already become a little buying.
I have a vehicle to tow my shiny trailer.

My off-road's passion has taken a little bit more than for the ability to tow.

So I have this Ford F250 7.3 diesel.

Now this since some time.




But recently, events have moved.

I come to share my joy here.

And I inform you of the transfer of my Airstream to the Arizona.

Airstream 1984 25 ft rear bed.

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