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Old 02-06-2016, 11:19 AM   #43
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Good information. Given my experience with our 36' Tiffin diesel pusher, I believe that our primary camping style will be in smallish campgrounds with limited or no hookups. Maneuvering room will be tight at times which is one reason we decided to downsize. What has been your experience with the 28?
We are finding that some national parks have minimal or no spots for larger trailers.

For example we are planning a trip to Yosemite. There are many spots but in the main three campgrounds near half dome most sites are limited to 35' total vehicle length but 24' trailer length due to maneuverability. They say you'll be turned away if you show up with bigger. There are a much smaller number of sites at Yosemite that accommodate 40' total and longer trailers. If you are able to reserve one of those you're good, but if not .....

Yellowstone however was not a problem as Fishing Village RV park inside the NP had plenty of room for large vehicles.

So it's going to depend on the park but it seems that at least some do have length limitations. I've read this before in other forums. I'm going to do some random NP campground sampling online myself as seeing more NPs is absolutely on our list and one reason we bought our AS.

Let us know what you decide, and pics are required of course!
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Old 02-06-2016, 11:28 AM   #44
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California State Parks range quite a bit in maximum size rigs, and the redwood parks are especially limited. Here is a link to the state's guide to this:

http://www.parks.ca.gov/rvlength
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Old 02-06-2016, 12:03 PM   #45
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Old 02-06-2016, 06:53 PM   #46
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Old 02-06-2016, 11:21 PM   #47
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You make a very good point about long term comfort. We are definitely spoiled from our experience with our Tiffin D.P. - your idea about customizing the seating is well received. Ditto for the added feeling of space with the Int'l Serenity model. If I were to buy a used A.S. I'd have to plan on removing bench type seating...
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Old 02-06-2016, 11:51 PM   #48
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You make a very good point about long term comfort. We are definitely spoiled from our experience with our Tiffin D.P. - your idea about customizing the seating is well received. Ditto for the added feeling of space with the Int'l Serenity model. If I were to buy a used A.S. I'd have to plan on removing bench type seating...
Thanks, Christopher. Long term seating, relaxing comfort inside the trailer is something that I think a lot of Airstream buyers overlook when checking out the trailers. They may sit on the sofa for a few minutes while looking over the rig, admiring the "coolness" of an Airstream. But once they own it and have to sit there for a few hours at a time, I think they realize how bad the seating comfort really is on those crappy bench sofas.

As I said above, if we couldn't have had our preferred recliners in an Airstream, we wouldn't own one. Seating comfort is important to us and we would just go with a different RV to allow recliners. Most trailers, 5th wheels, and Class A coaches are quite amenable to recliners, most Airstreams are not. Once you've spent a little time in one of these recliners, no RV sofa will ever compare for incredible comfort.



Sadly, most of the smaller Airstreams don't really have the possibility of modifying to a pair of recliners. The 28 and 30 footers generally do allow such modification, without too much work involved.
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Old 02-08-2016, 08:53 AM   #49
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...and you say you ordered your trailer from the factory with a "sofa - delete / dinette - delete"? Any difference in price??
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Old 02-08-2016, 12:38 PM   #50
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...and you say you ordered your trailer from the factory with a "sofa - delete / dinette - delete"? Any difference in price??
No. Ours was ordered with "Recliner Option", but we deleted the recliners themselves. This option builds a central cabinet that sits between where the recliners would go (bottom of cabinet houses some electrical components) and builds a fold out table in front of the recliners. (Both of which are visible in the photo above.)

We simply declined the factory-supplied 'euro-recliners' because we much preferred the style and comfort of our own. And we deleted the cleats built into the floor to secure the recliners. Our recliners don't move around on the floor at all during travel and thus, we didn't need any floor cleats.

With the dinette, all I did was remove (and store) one of the unneeded benches to create more floor space for the pups bed and feeding station. (Visible in an earlier photo I have in this thread.)

The charge for the customization was $3000, which we gladly paid. I don't believe the factory is accepting orders for the 'recliner option' anymore, though that wouldn't stop me for asking for it anyway, especially if one isn't asking the factory to provide the recliners themselves, but simply asking for a change to the front cabinet work.

We find the vinyl flooring to be exceptionally soft and likely very easily damaged, thus we put a large Berber rug under our recliners so we can move them around without any marks or damage to the vinyl floor. (Berber rug visible in photo above.) The Berber rug also keeps the recliners from moving around at all while the rig is in motion. We also use Berber runners through the kitchen and down the hall. The vinyl flooring looks nice, but warning - it is delicate. We don't anticipate having much, if any, wear to the vinyl by using the Berber rug and runners.

Hope this helps. If you enjoy great seating/relaxing comfort, I highly recommend doing what you can to have recliners in your RV.
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The Classic 27FB is about 800 pounds heavier than the lower trim models probably because of all the real Hickory Cabinets.

The factory installed vinyl in our 2015 23D International Serenity was so thin that the dinette leg had worn through the material in less than 2,000 miles of travel. After replacing the factory "stuff" with Marmoleum, we fastened a 2" x 3" brass plate to the floor under the dinette table left as a wear point. We did the same thing on our Classic.
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