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Old 10-05-2014, 02:33 PM   #43
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Just my experience. My 2012 Intl CCD had very, very few manufacturing flaws, and the one I did find was a rivet tail that wended its way into my furnace fan. I've been on the factory tour 4-5 times over the past 4 years and definitely have noticed a younger workforce, but I've had a good impression with limited observation. I had a second A/C installed at the Service Center and agree that this is a very well-operated enterprise. (My professional field is leadership development, around 24 years in this area.) I've spoken to some of the Airstream leadership team and I've been impressed with what I've seen or heard. I would compare them favorably with many top manufacturing leadership teams in the US and in Europe. Anyone who buys anything these days expects perfection, especially if you buy a top-end product. There is no doubt that some of their components are spec'd to a lower price point than many of us would prefer.....I changed many elements in my '12 and will probably do the same when my '15 Classic is delivered. Personal choice perhaps. The current "dilemma" they are facing is the ability to rapidly expand production to meet market demand and shareholder expectations. This is a "problem" many manufacturers would love to have. I think the Airstream leadership team is up to the task and agree with Andy R. that the company will continue as an American institution
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Old 10-05-2014, 03:23 PM   #44
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The current "dilemma" they are facing is the ability to rapidly expand production to meet market demand and shareholder expectations. This is a "problem" many manufacturers would love to have. I think the Airstream leadership team is up to the task and agree with Andy R. that the company will continue as an American institution




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Old 10-05-2014, 04:01 PM   #45
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The new factory addition may allow them to relieve some of the cramped working quarters and clutter. That in itself will increase quality and profits.
It my also allow them to streamline some of their processes. Automobile factories are so efficient partly because they are so spacious.
I'm not sure they could automate much. That would change what the Airstream trailer is.
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Old 10-05-2014, 06:39 PM   #46
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new factory expansion

Awesome we have our dollars invested with a winner. don;t be fooled into thinking that private don't work to a "bottom line". they just have the opportunity to spread the risk to far fewer people when it all goes bad!
i just retired from years of selling a Premium American High Priced, leader of the pack product, Caterpillar. I never looked upon my product as high priced, rather I saw my compeditors products as lacking innovation in design, having major quality backed up by poorly capitalized dealers. Cat is a world wide manufacturer that has decided to stay in the States. yes they have moved jobs to the southern states that have right to work legislation but they are staying in the U.S. Deere on the other hand simply buy the loin share of theie products and paint them J.D. yellow. which is better?
i drive a G.M.C. Yukon that was assembled in Mexico. there were many less expensive options. My generator/inverter is a Honda as is my A.T.V. I could have saved a ton of cash with one of those fine knock off products from China, until you need to cross over a spark plug!
When I buy anything I look at product design and dealer support a way ahead of price. we are all enjoying the long term benefits of owning quality not the short term benefit of low cost. I am a Canadian that is proud to own am American made travel trailer. Now that the manufacturer is investing in increased capacity in the U.S. we have something to be proud of. look at all the brands that have come and gone in an industry plagued with failure, we bought a winner. Sure they have their problems and that is our job to keep their feet to the fire in an effort to do a better job. hang in there Airstream, we love you..Pete
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well said. Buy a box trailer and see what you have in 10 to 15 years.
excellent post
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Old 10-05-2014, 06:57 PM   #48
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Old 10-05-2014, 06:58 PM   #49
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This is a 1957 GM PD 4104 bus/ RV conversion in the campground this weekend:
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How many white box trailers will still be here 57 years from now? Those laminated fiberglass sided trailers WILL delaminate. It's just a matter of time. Those rubber membrane roofs will dry rot and leak.
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Or this. Sorry, 80k and aside from the legacy, I'd expect Mr. Byam would agree with me "this is unsatisfactory".
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If you saw the lack of quality in my 70 GT you would know how they did it.
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I am comparing personal ownership of a white trailer and an Airstream.
The Airstream has been better, not perfect, but better.
There is no way a wood framed sob will last as long as an aluminum framed trailer.
Personally I spent much more time maintaining my previous sob trailer.
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In my opinion, Thor is using Airstream as a "halo" brand to sell their other RV brands that have price points considerably less than Airstream Trailers and touring vans.
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Consider that Thor's beginnings began with a purchase of Hi-Lo in Butler Ohio and then Airstream. You might notice that Hi-Lo's used the same axles from Henschen that Airstream used. Hi-Lo was eventually divested from Thor and is no longer being made.

Obviously there was plenty of profit in those 2 trailer lines since this was the seed money that helped expand the Thor empire.

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Why did Hi-Lo stop production? Lack of sales? Does Trail Manor (? The other Hi-Lo style trailer) still exist? To me those were too close to pop-ups.
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This announcement is not really a surprise. We have a friend who owns a very large RV dealership and the demand for large very expensive new motorhomes has far exceeded the manufacturers ability to keep up. These are expensive quality ones. Airstream fits right in, despite the gripes about the lack of quality from AS, their product is so much better than competition. Plus, much of the quality mistakes are or should be caught by the dealer in preparing the product.
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