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Old 08-05-2015, 03:52 PM   #71
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As a TPS guy myself, maybe we should start a visual controls + poka-yoke topic?
Ah! TCwheels, you probably drive a Scion then, eh

I really like visual controls, very helpful. Of course, if my wife thinks they're out of place, she moves them on me. Like yesterday, I got the ketchup and mustard out of the beer fridge and put them on the kitchen counter by the trailer keys. I come back later and they're gone, she's put them in the kitchen fridge because they don't belong on the counter.

Maybe I need some tags that say 'put in trailer' for all that stuff.

Now for a poka-yoke, I'd have to find some way of making the ketchup and mustard not fit in the kitchen fridge, only the beer or trailer fridge.

By the way, have you taken the AS tour in Jackson Center. Speaking of TPS, the Japanese would have a fit about all the stuff laying around. Still, a very interesting tour if you're into manufacturing.
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Ah! TCwheels, you probably drive a Scion then, eh

I really like visual controls, very helpful. Of course, if my wife thinks they're out of place, she moves them on me. Like yesterday, I got the ketchup and mustard out of the beer fridge and put them on the kitchen counter by the trailer keys. I come back later and they're gone, she's put them in the kitchen fridge because they don't belong on the counter.

Maybe I need some tags that say 'put in trailer' for all that stuff.

Now for a poka-yoke, I'd have to find some way of making the ketchup and mustard not fit in the kitchen fridge, only the beer or trailer fridge.

By the way, have you taken the AS tour in Jackson Center. Speaking of TPS, the Japanese would have a fit about all the stuff laying around. Still, a very interesting tour if you're into manufacturing.

I have not taken the tour yet. We were in JC in March but the timing didn't work. I have watched the videos and I agree, serious sort and set-in-order needed! It's evident they're trying to implement CI, and we know that's a long journey.
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Old 08-05-2015, 09:23 PM   #73
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As a TPS guy myself, maybe we should start a visual controls + poka-yoke topic?
...and maybe a little kan-ban could be added to make sure we don't run out of supplies.

I love this stuff (TPS) as well!
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Old 08-06-2015, 05:47 PM   #74
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...and maybe a little kan-ban could be added to make sure we don't run out of supplies.



I love this stuff (TPS) as well!

OK, sounds like we've got the makings of a new topic! Something like "Streaming with TPS"? It all, of course, applies!
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Those "key rings" on the safety chains are to take of the slack-
Twisting is NOT recommended-
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Someone suggested using tie-wraps instead of twisting. I've switched from twisting to using 2 tie-wraps (zip ties) on each side and it looks much better and now they are a little easier to work with. The tie-wraps are plastic and won't rust but should probably be replaced from time to time when they start weathering.
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Someone suggested using tie-wraps instead of twisting. I've switched from twisting to using 2 tie-wraps (zip ties) on each side and it looks much better and now they are a little easier to work with. The tie-wraps are plastic and won't rust but should probably be replaced from time to time when they start weathering.
Why not just shorten the chains?
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Why not just shorten the chains?
I might do that, mostly just lazy. It took less than a minute for 4 zip ties and I was off on the road.
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After all the futzing with extra chain pieces and links, we found the stock length worked just fine with the ProPride hitch head.
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If you shorten the chains and then get a different truck or hitch...
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Watch out for your AS Two Year warranty period!

Our AHA moment just happened! We purchased our 2013 Airstream on July 24th according to records, but picked up our 22FB Sport on August 2nd of 2013 from Airstream Adventures NW in Gladstone, OR.

I normally thought I would have till the end of August 2015 to have any warranty work done on it, so called our Dealer for an appointment for middle of August. They told me that Airstream would NOT cover any warranty work done as our warranty date ran out on July 24th. I mentioned that we didn't take possession of the trailer until August 2, but to no avail! So BEWARE of your warranty anniversary! Don't be a day late or MOTHER AIRSTREAM will cut you off!

My particulars were that I called on the 11th to book a service spot, so I was 9 days over my possession date. I had had on going discussions with the service department this past year with items that needed attention, but due to the 60's temperatures where we live, I didn't want to travel 200 miles over to Portland where it has been in the 90's to have work done. Oh well! I'm performing my own warranty work successfully and ordering online and shipping in any new parts quicker and at a cheaper price than purchasing through my previous dealer. I let them know that they had lost me as a customer due to their in my opinion unfair practice. I did receive a 2nd year birthday notice from them, but no mention of a particular date that warranty work would have to be accomplished by!

So BEWARE of your WARRANTY CUT OFF DATE!

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If you shorten the chains and then get a different truck or hitch...

Alternative instead of physically shortening (cutting) the chain.

Remove the chain from the hook and and reattach the hook in the appropriate position on the chain to get the desired slack. Use zip-tie or keychain ring to tie up the resultant excess chain back on itself.


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Don, I would of called Jackson Center directly for an opinion on the warranty period. In fact I would still call and let them know what happened. Does not sound right to me.
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Our AHA moment just happened! We purchased our 2013 Airstream on July 24th according to records, but picked up our 22FB Sport on August 2nd of 2013 from Airstream Adventures NW in Gladstone, OR.



I normally thought I would have till the end of August 2015 to have any warranty work done on it, so called our Dealer for an appointment for middle of August. They told me that Airstream would NOT cover any warranty work done as our warranty date ran out on July 24th. I mentioned that we didn't take possession of the trailer until August 2, but to no avail! So BEWARE of your warranty anniversary! Don't be a day late or MOTHER AIRSTREAM will cut you off!



My particulars were that I called on the 11th to book a service spot, so I was 9 days over my possession date. I had had on going discussions with the service department this past year with items that needed attention, but due to the 60's temperatures where we live, I didn't want to travel 200 miles over to Portland where it has been in the 90's to have work done. Oh well! I'm performing my own warranty work successfully and ordering online and shipping in any new parts quicker and at a cheaper price than purchasing through my previous dealer. I let them know that they had lost me as a customer due to their in my opinion unfair practice. I did receive a 2nd year birthday notice from them, but no mention of a particular date that warranty work would have to be accomplished by!



So BEWARE of your WARRANTY CUT OFF DATE!



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I would recommend calling the factory.

When we bought our 2012 in December 2012, we knew we wouldn't be picking it up until March/April 2013. We had the dealer talk with the factory and got in writing their commitment that our warranty would last 2 years from the date of delivery. If that was April 6, I knew I had until 4/6/15 to call about warranty issues (not up til the end of April 2015).

Even if you didn't get that agreement in advance, you should be able to talk with the factory about it - they don't have to, but they might honor the request (though they might balk at 2 years from delivery ending before your call if 8/11 - it may still be worth a kind/gentle discussion with them).

As it stands now, according to their records, you weren't a day late or 9 days late, you were more than a couple weeks late. But if you talked with the dealer about these issues DURING a the warranty period (do you have emails to that effect?) they typically should be honored IMO.

Good luck.
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