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Old 08-17-2011, 12:45 PM   #29
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One other comment about routing.....I went on AAA, Good Sam to get the best route between Missoula, Montana and Baker City, OR......they routed us west on I 90 and south on 395 I think.

I went on line and asked airforum folks about what looked like a more scenic route--12 west to Lewiston, WA 129 to OR 3 to Joseph then NF 39 to the road that goes into Baker......I was worried about the road but we did it and, boy, am I glad.....it was on the Lewis and Clark trail by the Lochsa River....through the Bitterroot Mountains..up and down Rattlesnake grade....one of the most memorable beautiful drives on our trip.....

Now, I am wondering what other beautiful sights we have missed when we do travel on the Interstates?????? paula

PS: US 50 from Pueblo to Dodge City then south on something like 283 or 4 to OK City was another nice drive.....nobody on the road but us.....
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Old 08-17-2011, 12:52 PM   #30
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now THIS i find extremely interesting! how does one go from riding with that bunch, to cussing mapquest and dragging a toaster around the country!?! that really seems like some big worlds apart amigo
Ah. you know the lads I am referring to. I was never a club member. But a good friend in High School dropped out and 'went bad', and we remained friends for a while after that. Then I guess I just made different decisions.
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Old 08-17-2011, 03:47 PM   #31
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My TomTom couldn't get me home when I did a simple navigate to home, locked up trying to find route, when I checked menu for preferences I had selected no unpaved roads, we were in a CG and it couldn't find its way out. Maybe gps mapping is starting to use phone signal availability and shopping, making scenic routes impossible. Towing toad makes fast u turns impossible so it would be nice to have a gps mapping program with towing as a built in function.
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Old 08-17-2011, 04:12 PM   #32
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Garmin can be helpful in finding the nearest Costco or Trader Joes if we are lucky enough to have one nearby....it can also be helpful in telling you in which lane to be in for the next turn.....it is a tool not the be all end all device.....paula
Before we leave, I check where the Trader Joe's are and print the locations. TJs are often located in small shopping malls and sometimes have very difficult parking, so we will call them and ask. You can find anything with a lap top and print the maps in the trailer—if you have a printer in it.

City maps are available from AAA and can tell you where the exit lanes are—especially those pesky left exits. Sometimes you need a magnifying glass to read them. AAA has a lot of city maps and ones for parts of states (there are many for parts of Cal., for ex.) or destination areas. They may not be on display and I just ask at the counter for every possible one.

Maps of national parks can be requested from the NPS and sometimes they will send them to you for free, or you can print them from the internet. Public campgrounds have maps on their websites; you may have to go through the reservation function to find them.

Other than AAA, there are many other maps available for a price. A really good bookstore will have a lot of them, but for places far away, you may have to order them. Outdoor stores also have maps of areas where people recreate. There are atlases of specific states (besides Rand McNally) that have more detail than you can believe. DeLorme atlases are like that. And you can get CD's with every topo in a specific state. Those aren't cheap though.

And you can buy books that tell you where all the things are that you may want to see in a state, province or a region. Frommers does a pretty good job, but there are plenty of others. When we go to an area to explore, it is worth buying some of those books—they may cost $20 each, but look at how much you are spending to get there and then it is a good investment on seeing what you want to see.

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Old 08-17-2011, 04:22 PM   #33
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Old 08-17-2011, 11:20 PM   #34
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But...but....but....WHY does Good Sam want me to drive through Kansas? That route isn't getting a lot of support here from other RVers. Isn't Good Sam by, and for, RVers?

The more westward route seems to be a lot more popular, in addition to being shorter, and faster. We think we'll take that route, despite the admitted regret at having to give up the anticipation of the day when I could declare that we were not in Kansas, anymore, etc.
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Old 08-18-2011, 09:19 AM   #36
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Good Sam is not a Forum member and he will never reply why he wants you to go through Kansas. Because he is "good", he must know something and maybe you can make a deal—I won't take I-70, but I'll take US 50 through southern Kansas. But we know compromise is a dirty word now and maybe Sam and Gringo will never get along.

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yes, I think you are right about Sam. Well, we do know he's Good to Kansas, when he can be. As for why...well that question about a man traveling down roads has been asked many a time before. And now, just like then, the answer my friend, is blowing in the wind.
The answer's still blowing in the wind.

You reckon he found out that my full name is Crazy Gringo?
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Have you driven around and past New Mexico? In regards to Santa Fe the satirist Will Rogers: "whoever designed this town did so while riding on a jackass, backwards, and drunk. Then the pass at Wolf Creek? Well it is the best place to ski if you don't like crowds. Anyway you go is better than Kansas--just kidding Kansans!
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I got a confession to make. I have been terrified of Kansas since I was about six years old and saw that movie with the witch and all those flying monkeys there. I have since come to accept that there are witches in life and they have to be dealt with. I've even fought some to a draw. But thinking about flying monkeys (or clowns) still gives me the heebie jeebies.
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Old 08-19-2011, 05:37 PM   #40
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We bought a Garmin Nuvi 1450 a couple trips to the US ago. We love that thing.


I also have the 1450. It does some pretty screwy things when you get off the beaten path.

Recently in rural Iowa. I programmed the 1450, but used Google Navigation on my Android smart phone for the actual navigation.
Google kicked the Garmin's butt. A couple of times Garmin wanted me to take off out of the way on gravel roads and on one occasion in Monticello, IA the garmin wanted me to wander through the back streets, rather that stay on the main highway as common sense showed to be the way to go.

From then on, if I think the Garmin is DUI again, I always check google Nav. It's only big downside is it can not calculate a route if you don't have a good data connection.

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Why is this post lined through?
Did Garmin USA sabotage it?
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We used the Nuvi on the original trip which was from Katy TX to Cypress TX, then from Cypress TX to Dallas. I turned all the avoidance factors on for that one. That was an interesting trip. We essentially tacked from Cypress to Dallas.

Since then we went back to Texas, turned all the filters off, and drove from Dallas to Lakeway ( West of Austin) and back. Then took it with us to Pittsburgh and I went out shopping around Pittsburgh area and hit a bunch of different individual addresses. It worked well enough that even when I doubt it I have been using it's routes and Have had no issues with the Garmin.

We don't use smartphones. Don't even own any. I have a single purpose cell phone that I mostly leave turned off.

But then I have installed two free updates since we bought it, too.
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I also have the 1450. It does some pretty screwy things when you get off the beaten path.

Recently in rural Iowa. I programmed the 1450, but used Google Navigation on my Android smart phone for the actual navigation.
Google kicked the Garmin's butt. A couple of times Garmin wanted me to take off out of the way on gravel roads and on one occasion in Monticello, IA the garmin wanted me to wander through the back streets, rather that stay on the main highway as common sense showed to be the way to go.

From then on, if I think the Garmin is DUI again, I always check google Nav. It's only big downside is it can not calculate a route if you don't have a good data connection.

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Why is this post lined through?
Did Garmin USA sabotage it?
I am still looking for an explanation of why the above post is showing up with all the words lined through. Does it look that way to anyone else?
It does not look that way when I compose it. But after I post, it appears that way.

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