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Old 05-16-2008, 11:37 AM   #15
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I've drooled over that floor plan...the nearest Airstream dealer is an hour away....RATS
Only an hour away. Thats close. Right now my closest dealer is five hours away. Make a day out of it and have fun!
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Old 05-16-2008, 11:45 AM   #16
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To understand basic sizes it'll pay to see some Airstreams at a dealer. The mention of the six-sleeper raises this point most of all. It will sleep six only if you have four very small children who will never grow. It involves collapsing the dinette table and another bed being made up on the couch -- each of which will only hold one adult. So it might get you close to your intended plan -- 3 full-sized guys. The caution about six-sleepers is the corner master bed -- the wall side of the bed should be occupied by a fairly short person only.

If you're going to go newer I'd suggest don't overlook the 25' FB models. Mom & dad sleep up front. Collapse the dinette for one person. The couch pulls out into the aisle space a bit; relocate the backrest cushion and you have space for the second of your twins. All that without having to deal with the corner double bed. But you'd need to answer the question of suitability about the corner bed by seeing one first.

Your sons will be occasional camping partners only if they're anything like my son & daughter. Will they even be camping with you in 3-4 years? I'd go with the Airstream that suits you & your husband first. Just an opinion...

Getting set up in a vintage could take a lot of restoration work (18-24 months?) before you even get camping with it. Be fully aware of potential restoration issues before taking this on if your DH is lukewarm in the first place. That can be a mighty long haul.

Check out a dealer who keeps Airstreams in stock. Visit a Forums rally. Try a corner bed to see if it works for you (usually only in 25' six-sleeper and 19' Bambi). Check out the Classifieds here -- people buy and then trade up or leave RVing entirely -- follow them for a while and you'll see quite a few 2-3 year old Airstreams.
Sage advise Bob. DH and I are thinking of looking/waiting a year or two and then just getting the Airstream of my - er I mean our - dreams without taking the boys into consideration.

We will probably take your advise and go with a newer model. I usually sit around the fire later than the hubby so I'd be climbing over him on a corner bed so the FB models may suit us better.

I see you and your DW have a 25' Safari. How is the storage on that? Where would we put our roadtrip grill, carpet for outside under the awning, tools, and bikes? All that is in the front compartment of our pop-up (not the bikes, four of those are on top.
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25' is a big as my hubby wants to go. Does your Safari really sleep six? I've drooled over that floor plan...the nearest Airstream dealer is an hour away....RATS
In a pinch it would, but comfortably? - not for six adults. 2 on the bed, one on the sofa, one on the dinette is probably a much as I would suggest in most cases.
The six sleeper is a great floor plan but it also has it's drawbacks. The two issues I have with it are the bed and the small toilet area. There is a privacy screen that seperates the bed/bath area from the rest of the trailer. Overall I think it is a good use of available space.
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Old 05-16-2008, 11:50 AM   #18
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Only an hour away. Thats close. Right now my closest dealer is five hours away. Make a day out of it and have fun!
That's putting it in perspective I'm going to call the three dealers within 3 hours of us and see who has the most inventory. I think there will be some type of bribery involved to get the family to participate in a road trip

So many models to choose from....I don't know how we'll ever decide!
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Old 05-16-2008, 12:05 PM   #19
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What size?

I believe you have already some very sage advice. I will just pass along our experience.

We have a 30' Classic.

We purchased our trailer in 2001. At the time, our daughter was 22, unmairied and interested in a young man. Our son was 16 and growing.
I am 6'4" and 260, my son is now 6'4" and at least 300, my daughter is now married and her DH is 6'1" and about 190.

When we purchased the AS, it fit our family wonderfully. Today 7 years later, it still fits our family. They love it and look forward to the two or three weekends a summer we can all get together and do someting fun.

We would not be able to accomodate all if we had a smaller unit. The sofa opens to a usable double and the dinetter folds into a double for smaller people. We use the outside with the awning and are very active with the outdoors when all are present.

My DW and I will take the unit with the dog for two and half weeks this summer just to be by ourselves. I can't think of a better unit to serve all and provide me we a great bed to sleep in.

I guess what I'm trying to say, don't make the mistake to purchase to the family you have today. The family you hae today will change. We like to have ours around and appreciate the interaction with them as their lives change. The AS is used to facilitate this interaction.

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I see you and your DW have a 25' Safari. How is the storage on that? Where would we put our roadtrip grill, carpet for outside under the awning, tools, and bikes? All that is in the front compartment of our pop-up (not the bikes, four of those are on top.
Gettin' down to the nitty gritty now... Hope we can hook you on aluminitis!

I was camping in a friend's 31' Jayco for a short period last summer -- it's one of the few full size trailers that has pass-through front storage similar to what your popup may have. But still .... Jayco? As much as we can go hot and cold on Jackson Center's design decisions, Airstreams had that trailer beat in so many ways.

25' newer Airstreams can be hefty. You'll still have to talk through tow vehicles. I was not quite sure any of them have generous outside storage -- until we made the serendipitous choice of the twin bed arrangement. There is one small compartment standard on all 25' FB, 27' FB & 28' FB Int'l. Except that the twin bed option fits in two additional good sized outside compartments. I use one of these for hoses & water gear and the other for chairs, under-awning mat, and a lot more. I put my Roadtrip grill in the back of my truck. Bikes go inside the back of my truck and the canoe goes on top of the truck. All of this load needs adequate tow vehicle payload capacity -- a different issue for a different day. I've posted on my outside storage compartments here.

The midwest Moraine View rally attracts member cosmotini from the St. Louis area -- he wowed me last June with his brand new 28' FB International. It's the height of luxury and sleeping comfort. With a longer Airstream like his, it has a front-to-back oriented queen bed. Us? We're staying with the 25' and the twin beds. We decline to answer questions on whether that makes us British...
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Old 05-16-2008, 02:37 PM   #21
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Gettin' down to the nitty gritty now... Hope we can hook you on aluminitis!
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25' newer Airstreams can be hefty. You'll still have to talk through tow vehicles. I was not quite sure any of them have generous outside storage -- until we made the serendipitous choice of the twin bed arrangement. There is one small compartment standard on all 25' FB, 27' FB & 28' FB Int'l. Except that the twin bed option fits in two additional good sized outside compartments. I use one of these for hoses & water gear and the other for chairs, under-awning mat, and a lot more. I put my Roadtrip grill in the back of my truck. Bikes go inside the back of my truck and the canoe goes on top of the truck. All of this load needs adequate tow vehicle payload capacity -- a different issue for a different day. I've posted on my outside storage compartments here.

The midwest Moraine View rally attracts member cosmotini from the St. Louis area -- he wowed me last June with his brand new 28' FB International. It's the height of luxury and sleeping comfort. With a longer Airstream like his, it has a front-to-back oriented queen bed. Us? We're staying with the 25' and the twin beds. We decline to answer questions on whether that makes us British...
LOL about the aluminitis...is it contageous? We have a V-8 Tahoe so I'm hoping we can tow a 25' AS. Yours is beautiful - OK, now I have AS envy. Still laughing about your being a Brit DH and I think of Lucy and Ricky with twin beds!
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Still laughing about your being a Brit DH and I think of Lucy and Ricky with twin beds!
We had our '06 Safari a year before a Forums member mentioned the pullout platform under the couch amidships. I didn't think I had one. Turns out the dealership missed telling us about it on our orientation walk-through (I don't think they really knew -- we ordered the first one they'd ever seen). So the couch becomes a nice, wide ... ummm ... sleeping area. Turns out too ... I'm not really British.
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25' is a big as my hubby wants to go. Does your Safari really sleep six? I've drooled over that floor plan...the nearest Airstream dealer is an hour away....RATS
A whole hour away? If you don't like to drive for an hour... how far will you want to tow a trailer?

GO THERE. The difference between looking on a website and seeing in person is HUGE. A big dealership and/or a rally are "must do's" before you buy IMHO. It's a big purchase, investing half a day to do the looksee may save you $40K or so in regrets. Oh, and while at the dealership, take off your shoes, and flop on the beds, sit on the can, look inside the refrig.

If you aren't comfortable sleeping or you can't close the door of the bathroom (esp. after eating chili with beans! ) you'll never be truly happy in the trailer. If crawling over your partner to make a pit stop in the middle of the night is a problem, you'll never like a corner bed. Oh, and about the 25' limit. Many trailers measure floor space for length. Airstreams include the hitch... so a 27' FB model is really hitch to bumper 27' 10 inches. You'll see - LESS than 25' inside. IMHO that is the perfect unit.

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I'd stay away from the 70's with the mid twin beds for sure...
Take a look at some of the '70's units, ours has a 76" bed area and a 75" X 52" mattress.
We went empty nest 2 years into owning the trailer so out came the front sofa/bed and in it's place are a pair of recliners (that assures the nest will stay empty... )

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A whole hour away? If you don't like to drive for an hour... how far will you want to tow a trailer?

GO THERE. The difference between looking on a website and seeing in person is HUGE. A big dealership and/or a rally are "must do's" before you buy IMHO. It's a big purchase, investing half a day to do the looksee may save you $40K or so in regrets. Oh, and while at the dealership, take off your shoes, and flop on the beds, sit on the can, look inside the refrig.

If you aren't comfortable sleeping or you can't close the door of the bathroom (esp. after eating chili with beans! ) you'll never be truly happy in the trailer. If crawling over your partner to make a pit stop in the middle of the night is a problem, you'll never like a corner bed. Oh, and about the 25' limit. Many trailers measure floor space for length. Airstreams include the hitch... so a 27' FB model is really hitch to bumper 27' 10 inches. You'll see - LESS than 25' inside. IMHO that is the perfect unit.

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I want to flop on all the different beds too....Never thought about the BR situation but now we'll have to try that out too . I called the dealer an hour away. They have two AS on the lot. If we drive 2 hours, they have 10. Now I'm praying for a really nasty day weather wise this weekend so we'll have nothing to do but travel to Ohio to dream-shop.

We've towed our pop-up 12 hours was our furthest trip... I really appreciate everyone posting. This is a big decision.
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Sage advise Bob. DH and I are thinking of looking/waiting a year or two and then just getting the Airstream of my - er I mean our - dreams without taking the boys into consideration.

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If you are going to wait a year or two, you have time to buy an older trailer and renovate it to meet your needs.....just a thought .......don't want to confuse you any more....paula
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If you are going to wait a year or two, you have time to buy an older trailer and renovate it to meet your needs.....just a thought .......don't want to confuse you any more....paula
Kind of what we are thinking too. Looking now in case our dream trailer goes on the market. Lost out on one this week....ah, the one that got away!
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Kind of what we are thinking too. Looking now in case our dream trailer goes on the market. Lost out on one this week....ah, the one that got away!
Sometimes losing out is a good thing especially if you have just started looking......if you choose this route (renovating), you have to be prepared to spot rotten floors and bad axles........these things can be fixed--it is just important that you do not renovate over bad flooring and bad axles....which means, don't overpay for an older unit that the PO says "everything works" and if you don't know how to spot soft floors or bad axles (and who is born with that knowledge?), please ask a forum member who has agreed to inspect to help........don't ask me how I know.......paula
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