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Old 02-10-2003, 04:56 PM   #15
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rewiring my thermostat is the only mod. i've made.

i was walking by my trailer when it was stored between trips and heard the water pump running.

thinking this was odd, i went into the trailer and tried to turn it off. no luck!

what i found by removing circuits one by one was that the thermostat wires (two blues) were energizing the water pump some how.

the only way i figure that this could happen is when the cedar closet was installed at the factory one of the screws pierced the wiring harness and crossed the waterpump with the hot lead from the furnace.

so my only mod is two new blue wires run under the cabinets to power the thermostat. i capped off the original ones and abandoned them.

everything has worked perfectly since!

that was one long day of troubleshooting though!

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Old 02-10-2003, 07:40 PM   #16
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My "new style" trailer .... (it's phat!)

Bought some old (used up) axles from Andy, slammed down the Argosy. Then I put 20" rims and low profiles on for "looks." Firestone airbags raise the trailer for entering campsites and "leveling." Cruising down the local waterfront drag I can get the trailer rocking side to side with the aircontrols! (just like the lowriders!) I also don't have too much problem leveling at the campsite.

Neon (purple) lights light up the underneath and glow at night- helps greatly for nighttime hookups to the Astro. I have a "dragger bar" that is remote controlled with a propane jet - you should SEE those flames - great for marshmellow roasts - ANYTIME! (just eats up my propane supply fast though )

Anyway - next up is the purple to alunimum fade paintjob - just saving up!
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Old 02-10-2003, 07:44 PM   #17
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Thumbs up Awesome!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

Marc,

You HAVE to post some pics of this too cool unit!

Some at night and others showing the airbags in action.

Or are you just busting B@lls!!!

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Old 02-10-2003, 08:20 PM   #18
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Having a wife that considers staying at a Holiday Inn is camping, I was in need of something unique. I have a 1970 Ambassador that has been completely gutted and remodeled. This new "vintage" trailer sports a modern kitchen, hardwood floors, and the topper--a fully functioning jacuzzi whirlpool tub that looks out the rear window!! I must admit that I thoroughly enjoyed whirlpooling while staring out the window watching Yellowstone Parks amazing beauty. And they call this camping?!?!
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Old 02-12-2003, 10:40 AM   #19
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Dolly wheels

Pahaska.

Adding dolly wheels is NOT recommended.

First, they lower the rear ground clearance.

Secondly, as in your case, should you bottom out while turning, you will tear up the wheels since they don't swivel.

Thirdly and most importantly, should you bottom out at a speed something more than a crawl, the rear end of the trailer will be lifted in an area that is "taboo."
Damage to the rear quarter panels will occur, in the form of buckling the panels, as well as promoting "rear end separation."

Damage to the rear quarter panels has happened to many others that have installed "dolly wheels."

And finally, Airstream has skid plates at the rear bottom of every trailer, for the purpose of protecting the rear end.

A word to the wise. If you added dolly wheels to your Airstream trailer, or classic Airstream motorhome, "TAKE THEM OFF"
You and your coach, will be glad you did.


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Old 02-12-2003, 05:07 PM   #20
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First, the ground clearance is reduced by all of 5/8". Not likely to make a whole lot of difference in whether I drag or not.

Second. I would much rather drag a $5 set of plastic wheels sideways than grind metal off the drag bars on the trailer. The first time I dragged on an unexpected concrete storm drain without the wheels, it took considerable metal off the drag bar. The bars won't take very much of that.

Thirdly, it is going to put a lot less strain on the frame to have a rolling contact than a draggging contact, especially at obstruction such as a concrete seam.

No way. They are there and they are going to stay on there and my coach is glad I put them there.
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Old 02-12-2003, 11:20 PM   #21
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Pahaska,

As much as I hate to say it Andy is right.

If I still had my Argosy I would show you what damaging effect those seemingly helpful little wheels cause. It had wrinkles in the lower skin above the rear bumper on both sides above the frame rails. The frame would load up and compress the lower floor channel and transfer all the upward forces into the skin, thus the wrinkles. Any reduction in ground clearance, even as little as 5/8'ths of an inch will make the matters even worse. You are unloading the axles even more so, increasing the amount of weight dragging down onto the pavement, pushing up on the frame and bumper even more. Having the dolly wheels at the rearmost edge of the bumper just gives them more leverage to do their damage.

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Old 02-13-2003, 05:45 AM   #22
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i'm not going to go either way on this topic.

i have a dip on the end of my driveway that can cause the end of my trailer to drag.

what i have done in the past to minimize the drag is the following:

no water in the tank until i'm out in the street.

no luggage/supplies until i'm out in the street.

i do not connect load bars until i'm out in the street.

by doing these things i have got it so there is just a light scrape when i go out. (and backing in too)

at one time i had considered mounting nylon "pucks" to the skid bars to aid in sliding. but the no load until i hit the street plan seems to be working.

my street is scheduled for resurfacing soon, i'm hopeful that some of the crown in the street will be removed then. making things better.

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Old 02-13-2003, 05:53 AM   #23
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hold on!

john

i went back and looked at your pic of the dolly wheels again.

do you have skid bars on your trailer?

by the picture it looks like you do not.

maybe the wheels are not such a bad idea after all!

it looks like if they were not there your tank cover/belly skin would drag!

got any more pics?

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Question Skid Plates

What do the skid plates look like. Do all A/S's have them?

Why would John's wheels be any worse that draging the back bumper. His wheels are recessed up in the frame.

This is a good topic because it seems like a good idea.

Andy.. Your reasoning and experiance does make sense.

Is it one of those things that one could say that the wheels can help in many cases but could be a problem in other situations?
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I agree that any rear end dragging on any Airstream, dolly wheels or not, is a bad thing. That is part of the reason I went with as tall of tires as I could possibly get and is another reason to make sure your axles are not sagged out. Also be sure your hitch heights and equalizers are set up correctly. Now if you could put extended 'wheelie bars" that would attach at or near the rear axle and run them back towards the rear of the trailer you would transmit the force in an area which would not affect the rear shell of the trailer. Sounds far fetched but I am going to check it out.

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Thumbs up Brilliant idea

Chas... You are da Man!!!

I like it. That idea would satisfy all of the criteria. Just add rotating caster type dolly wheels to the equation. Something like a long leaf spring could be used so there would be some give but not to much.
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Chas... Crude pic but is this what you have in mind??
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Exactly what I was thinking! The (outrigger?) would have to be very strong and slender, a leaf spring from a good size truck would probably be best because it would "give' a bit.

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