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Old 02-03-2004, 01:22 PM   #15
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Three huge differences between the Safari and Classic that can NOT be changed:

That Safari sofa is cheap and uncomfortable and there is NO comparison to the Classic sofa!
I know about this one, Twink got the leather sofa, same as I have in my Classic. So nice that you don't want to get out of it!

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Old 02-03-2004, 02:08 PM   #16
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We are pulling a 30' Holiday Rambler now. While not in the Airstream class, it does tow nicely. However, when thinking about doing a two day weekend, I quickly dismiss the thought because it seems like so much work for one quick night, especially with check-in/out at noon.

I was thinking more along the lines of something I could use more like a motorhome. Leave Friday after work and maybe spend the night at a Flying J. Then, explore/adventure with the Bambi in tow till check-in at noon. Then make Sunday part of the explore/adventure by hooking up and dragging the Bambi whereever you want to go to, finally leaving in the late afternoon/early evening for home effectively turning a normal two day week-end into a three day (2 and 1/2) vacation. At 19' 4" my total length would be under 40', the size of many new motorhomes (without their toad).

Even thought of keeping the 30 footer for longer vacations and having the Bambi (week-ender) for all the week ender stuff. We've got so many places to week-end in ... the Keys, Mickey Mouse Land, Naples, Charlotte Harbor and the Gulf Islands, antique-ing in Arcadia, Mount Dora (bet you didn't know Florida had a little New England mountain town), Space Coast, Hutchinson Island, St. John's river, etc.
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Old 02-03-2004, 02:15 PM   #17
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Ahh, an upgraded sofa would be a must for a Safari.

But since I cover my sofa, I did not want a leather one. I end up washing my sofa cover every week and could not imagine how dirty the sofa would get without.
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We are pulling a 30' Holiday Rambler now. While not in the Airstream class, it does tow nicely. However, when thinking about doing a two day weekend, I quickly dismiss the thought because it seems like so much work for one quick night, especially with check-in/out at noon.
I can't imagine what the difference is between hitching and unhitching your 30' Holiday, a 19' Bambi, a 25' Safari or a 34' Tri-axle. The steps are identical, and all have essentially the same hitch-unhitch components. They all need power, water, and sewer hookups attached and/or de-attached. That part of towing a trailer is the same. I have a 13' fiberglass camper, and it's just as much of a pain to hitch up and set up as our 34' Behemoth.

The only difference for me is where you can tow it comfortably.... and that's not a big deal. I've even turned around on gravel roads in a farm drive doing a 3-pt with the Behemoth. It's not fun, but it's not difficult either.

We bought the Behemoth to weekend and vacation with. I bought the 13' trailer for a specific purpose and that's all I use it for. Otherwise, it's the Behemoth for us. I bought a '94 used and let someone else eat the nearly $50k depreciation on it. It has the added benefit of being nearly 1,000 lbs lighter than the new ones(it's not the wide body), and (I think) nearly 2,000 lbs lighter than the 34' model with the slide. That translates to not having to have quite such a heavy vehicle to tow with. If I were going to tow it occaisionally, winter over in it somewhere and mainly leave it parked, I'd have opted to find one with the slide. Since I tow mine regularly, I wanted the lightest weight I could find.

Having started Airstreaming in a 23' Safari, later on trying a 16' Bambi, and now up to the Behemoth, I'd suggest the 25' Safari as a nice all-round easy towing, pleasant sized trailer. The Behemoth has it's moments towing. The 23' Safari was about two feet too short sometimes. The new ones would be perfect (is this beginning to sound like the three bears' house?).

Anyway... be realistic in your assessment of why you want a shorter trailer; and what the shorter trailer will really do for you. If you want a Bambi 'cause you want a Bambi, then by all means go for it. Otherwise, you'll probably find it just a tad small after your first couple of outings; particularly if you're going to do a week or two in it after being used to the 30' Holiday.

Best of luck!

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Old 02-03-2004, 03:13 PM   #19
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Ahh, an upgraded sofa would be a must for a Safari.

But since I cover my sofa, I did not want a leather one. I end up washing my sofa cover every week and could not imagine how dirty the sofa would get without.
The dual step is on my hit list too. I have taken a look at the measurements and they appear to be nearly identical. At some point, I will most likely remove the single step and weld or have installed the Classic dual step. This appears possible. I forgot to ask for it at the time of production.

I fell asleep on the "Ultraleather" couch last night! Not like a real couch, but plenty comfortable and the leather is like butter!

The BIG thing for me that the Classic has the the Safari doesn't is the windows and the outer metal (silver looking) window frames. That I think could be installed on the Safari (due to the window sizes being practically identical), but they wouldn't do it off the production line....I asked the answer was a clear NO. I too think it could be done, but then there is a cost issue. Is it worth it and to me with 2 fantastic fans, it would be nice, but I think I'll hit the dual step first!
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Old 02-03-2004, 03:25 PM   #20
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30' Feels just right!

We've had a 22' Class A motorhome, a 23' travel trailer, and a 24' diesel motorsailer. We traded the 24' motorsailer up to a 30' diesel trawler and it was "just right." We recently purchased our 30' Excella - and it too feels "just right." Something about 30' simply works. The other rigs - although they were all good quality - always seemed a tad too small. The sleeping quarters and the bath facilities were adequate - but the lounging area came up short. Maybe 25' is the magic number but I don't want to go back to anything shorter! The 30' Excella, coupled to the longbed crew cab pickup, makes us 53' overall. I won't know until I have more over-the-road experience if that's going to be a problem. The many voices of experience keep telling me not to worry!
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Old 02-03-2004, 03:29 PM   #21
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Re: 30' Feels just right!

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The 30' Excella, coupled to the longbed crew cab pickup, makes us 53' overall. I won't know until I have more over-the-road experience if that's going to be a problem. The many voices of experience keep telling me not to worry!
I too think that it will be a non issue. I'm at about 44' right now.....9' seems like a lot, but I don't think it will be an issue at all.

I've watched Roger tow his 34' love boat with his Excursion and he got that beast into a fairly tight spot.
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I too think that it will be a non issue. I'm at about 44' right now.....9' seems like a lot, but I don't think it will be an issue at all.

I've watched Roger tow his 34' love boat with his Excursion and he got that beast into a fairly tight spot.
We're about 53' with the Behemoth & the Excursion as well... I think it actually is easier to back than my 23' Safari attached to a 3/4 ton Ford Supercab longbed!

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Old 02-03-2004, 03:39 PM   #23
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Plus you should have seen all the folks staring with blank looks on their faces with their mouths open when they saw him drive this galaxy class starship down the narrow road and squeeze it into the campsite.

It was an impressive site to witness.
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Old 02-03-2004, 04:05 PM   #24
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I can't imagine what the difference is between hitching and unhitching your 30' Holiday, a 19' Bambi, a 25' Safari or a 34' Tri-axle.
I would say the difference is if you can store it on your property or not. In my neighborhood, storing a 25' is impossible but a Bambi would fit in the diveway. There is a neighbor that keeps his Bambi in his driveway and he takes it out 1-2 weekends a month. He can keep it stocked and ready to go.

But I have to bring my 25' home from the storage lot and wash her, dust her, and load her. I usually bring it home the week before to get her ready. Then after the trip, I have to unload and prepare her for storage. Too much work for 1-2 nights for me.

If I could store my trailer at my house, there would be no difference in getting away.
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Truckers say the longer the trailer, the easier it is to back up. So my 30' Classic should be easier than my 25' Safari. I wonder? I'll let you know...
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I think that I must have hit it right going with my 28 footer.

As for backing, the longer the distance from ball to the axle the easier it is to manuver in reverse. Of cource there are limits to this too. I have about 20 years till retirement, and I have no idea as to what size trailer will work. I can't wait to see how small the 28 feet of my Ambassador will feel. I'm glad that it was set up as a double, for it has about two feet more "living room" up front. So when the twin conversion is complete, we should have the best of both worlds.

Now back to your regular thread.....
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But since I cover my sofa, I did not want a leather one. I end up washing my sofa cover every week and could not imagine how dirty the sofa would get without.
We covered our cloth Safari sofa with a double bed fitted sheet. We got a nice pattern and it fit perfectly and hung on extremely well. When we sold the trailer the sofa looked like new.

We will probably cover the leather sofa also, unless company comes over. Even with it covered it has a better comfort level than the cloth sofa. I'm sure we will go with the fitted sheet again. Just a different color and pattern to match the new interior colors of the Classic.

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Plus you should have seen all the folks staring with blank looks on their faces with their mouths open when they saw him drive this galaxy class starship
Wow that's a good term....hmmm.... galaxy class starship. Do I see a Star Trek name in its future? Scotty, give me more power!

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