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Old 03-27-2015, 09:47 AM   #1
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Website is slow now

Okay, my computer is 8 years old. But it still handles all the other forums I use and ebay and even Comcast email. But the overhead here has become so high (the popup videos added to each post) that the site is just difficult and not fun to surf. I guess the priciple is load it up until it breaks and then maybe back off a little. I find I am currently skiipping checking this site more and more because of the difficulty.
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Old 03-27-2015, 10:20 AM   #2
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Hmmm, videos? I don't have any of them showing.

8 years old is, well, old for a computer! without know exactly what machine you have, or the state of install it is really hard to help. But I will try:

What browser are you using?
Have you tried installing ABP to block adverts?
https://adblockplus.org

Good luck.
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Old 03-27-2015, 10:56 AM   #3
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Mine is two years old, no issues with any forum. Have you tried closing down completely and restarting? Doing this on a regular basis helps. AS my son says who is an IT person, "that's why there is an on off switch".
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Old 03-27-2015, 11:23 AM   #4
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On balance the site is the slowest site of all those I use and thus I use it less than before. It is the cost of monetizing a site without upgrading the server capacity.
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Old 03-27-2015, 12:02 PM   #5
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Ha!

Funny you mention that. I JUST sent a note questioning the use of in-post advertisements. I started and ran a boating board for 14 yrs before selling it.
We were completely user supported with zero advertisements. It was, and is still nowhere near as large a user sub as this board, so I can see the need for advertising here. Server space t'aint cheap. Yeah I get AS forums having ads above, below and on the sides of the board, but in-post? I complain very little to anyone in my life. I've gotten much further down the road by doing that. But in this case, I think that's a bit overboard on the ads IMHO. In-post ads just takes it a bit too far. Not trying to stir the pot, but as a paying subscriber, I do feel my voice should be heard.
And now I will slink back to my corner and keep me mouth shut. Just sayin'...
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Old 03-27-2015, 12:03 PM   #6
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It works OK on my 5-6 year old PC, but we have inline internet-
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Old 03-27-2015, 12:22 PM   #7
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We use mobile broadband exclusively, and this site has drastically slowed since the video and sidebar ads were added a couple of weeks ago. Some Web pages load so slowly that they time out, and I have started getting error messages. Not sure, but I think data usage has also increased due to the videos that can't be stopped from loading and running, which is a problem for us.

This problem is so bad that I have begun skipping posts and threads that load too slowly or time out. Then, I try later, hoping different static ads will be loaded instead of videos.

While I know AirForums probably needs the ad revenue, I wish there was some way to opt out of the video ads. Slow load times and errors are a great detraction from this otherwise great Website.

I hope the administrators are monitoring this thread and someone sees all of the negative comments.

Does anyone use an adblocker that doesn't also slow their PC?
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Old 03-27-2015, 12:29 PM   #8
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Funny you mention that. I JUST sent a note questioning the use of in-post advertisements. I started and ran a boating board for 14 yrs before selling it.
We were completely user supported with zero advertisements. It was, and is still nowhere near as large a user sub as this board, so I can see the need for advertising here. Server space t'aint cheap. Yeah I get AS forums having ads above, below and on the sides of the board, but in-post? I complain very little to anyone in my life. I've gotten much further down the road by doing that. But in this case, I think that's a bit overboard on the ads IMHO. In-post ads just takes it a bit too far. Not trying to stir the pot, but as a paying subscriber, I do feel my voice should be heard.
And now I will slink back to my corner and keep me mouth shut. Just sayin'...
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The feedback is useful to hear - so thanks


The in post ads have been in place for a long time. They only display when not logged in. This is encouragement to register and log in and helps sustain the board.

regarding slowdowns... On friday mornings we do regular server maintenance and the board is extra slow while that's in progress - usually early in the morning (eastern time). This is a weekly event and usually lasts about 30 minutes. If you sleep in you should avoid it entirely
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Old 03-27-2015, 12:49 PM   #9
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"The in post ads have been in place for a long time. They only display when not logged in. This is encouragement to register and log in and helps sustain the board."

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This statement was true until a couple of weeks ago. Now, all of the ads that "guests" view are still displayed after members login; and there is no difference in the screens members see.

Below is the error message I see when a really slow screen times out. I just got this a minute or two ago.
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Old 03-27-2015, 01:03 PM   #10
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Here are typical GUEST and MEMBER screens showing ads (first/top screen is before login, and second/bottom screen is after login):
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Old 03-27-2015, 01:04 PM   #11
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"The in post ads have been in place for a long time. They only display when not logged in. This is encouragement to register and log in and helps sustain the board."

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This statement was true until a couple of weeks ago. Now, all of the ads that "guests" view are still displayed after members login; and there is no difference in the screens members see.

Below is the error message I see when a really slow screen times out. I just got this a minute or two ago.
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No - really those ads in posts don't show when you are logged in. If they are I suspect that you are being logged out at page changes.. Next time you see an ad in a post please scroll up and see if you can still see the welcome message in the top corner. It should look like this but display your username (not mine)

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If you don't see this you have been logged off. The most common reason for this is that folks routinely block cookies and we use them to keep you logged in at page changes. Perhaps you have a new security protocol on your system or have made other changes recently that might have impacted this?


If you still want to block cookie handling for other sites you should be able to add an exclusion to your browser settings to allow the ones from us. This may also speed up pages loads as well.
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Old 03-27-2015, 01:13 PM   #12
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Some browsers (like Firefox) allow you to manage your add ons, like Adobe Flash. You can change the settings to 'ask to activate'. For those ads that use flash to show you small videos, have twirly things or other annoying eye-catchers, they won't play unless you click on the "allow" button in the middle of the ad.

Of course, you now have to click to allow Flash for any window and not all flashy ads use Adobe Flash, some are just animated GIFs and you can't get around those, but then they don't use bandwidth like the videos do.

If your browser is Firefox, under the Tools toolbar button is 'Add-ons'. Select it and set things to 'ask to activate' so you can get a better feel of what's really necessary. When it pops up, you get a choice of "allow now" and "always allow" or something like that. Allow now turns it on for just that one instance. Always allow changes the setting to be enabled and won't ask again.

Internet Explorer will allow you to disable add-ons, but no settings to ask you if you want to start it.
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With older computers, the processor speed isn't up to snuff and usually not a multi-core (quad processor). The machine isn't any slower than before (unless you have a virus or malware / adware) but advertisements are developed on newer machines and they have a lot more power and speed. What's normal for them will be painfully slow for you.

The biggest bang for you buck is to upgrade your memory to the maximum. If your hard drives aren't SATA that's another possibility but you'd have to upgrade the mother board for the faster bus.

Personally, I think you need to bite the bullet, it's time for a new toy. You'll never get your investment back from your old PC.
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Old 03-27-2015, 01:21 PM   #13
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Here's the top menu bar that shows I'm still logged in.

FYI, my PC is a Lenovo G770 laptop with i5 microprocessor and 6GB of RAM. OS is Windows7, and browser is Google Chrome.
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Old 03-27-2015, 01:56 PM   #14
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Phoenix's experience matches mine. I see those inline ads, too, and I'm still logged in, too.
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