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Kistler · 01-10-2003, 12:52 PM

What are the tow vehicles pictured on the from of the book? I am not good at Ford identification.

Didn't someone in/on this forum mention that 3 sets of wheels are on 34' trailers? hmmmm

Kistler

thenewkid64 · 01-10-2003, 04:02 PM

I already put the book in the MH, but I belive they were either an Expedition or F250 Crewcab SWR truck.

Pahaska · 01-10-2003, 04:49 PM

It's a SUV, not a truck.

Definitely not an F250. They have the jog in the front windows at the mirrors.

And yes, that is a 34 footer! More than I think one should haul with an Expidition.

Kistler · 01-10-2003, 05:02 PM

I thought so also but wasn't certain and knew it was in opposition to what I have learned on this forum.

Again, it would seem that the image being given to the public (also Jeep ads

) is not the most thought out....

Kistler

InsideOut · 01-10-2003, 05:09 PM

Could it be an Excursion...the "big brother" to the Expedition?

Shari

Pahaska · 01-10-2003, 05:16 PM

The Excursion is a lot uglier and sits a lot higher. The Excursion is a F250 under the skin and shares the jogged front windows of the F250.

The photos look about like my neighbor's Navigator which is pretty much an upmarket Expidition.

InsideOut · 01-10-2003, 05:16 PM

From the Ford website it looks like the Excursion might be okay with a..."7.3L V8 Power Stroke Diesel" engine...

The towing capacities from the website are:
Axle ratio 3.73
GCWR is 20,000
Max. Trailer Weight 11,000

Whaddathink? I'm not by any means an expert at this stuff!

Shari

Rickk48 · 01-10-2003, 05:20 PM

Can someone post an image of the cover you are talking about?

Pahaska · 01-10-2003, 05:25 PM

No doubt an Excursion can pull a 34' A/S, but I'm pretty sure that photo isn't an Excursion. I see a lot of them around here.

They are selling so poorly overall that Ford has decided to drop the line. They are huge; the one place they did sell is here in Texas where everything has to be bigger. First time I saw one was in the parking lot at Luby's with brand new paper license on it. The guy had gotten crosswise in a tight parking area and had managed to get himself so wedged in that he was still trying to get out when I walked into the restaurant.

InsideOut · 01-10-2003, 05:30 PM

John,

I agree...they are way TOO BIG! We have a bunch of "soccer moms" with them around here...it's really overkill!

I also had heard they were dropping them...but they are still in the 2003 line...

Shari

InsideOut · 01-10-2003, 05:35 PM

Rick,

I'll look at my WBCCI book when I get home tonight....& post a picture if someone else hasn't yet.

Shari

InsideOut · 01-10-2003, 06:34 PM

Okay, so here's the picture...on second thought, it doesn't look like an Excursion, probably an Expedition.

Also from the Ford website the Expedition's towing capacities are:

Engine: 5.4L V-8 (4x2)
Axle ratio: 3.73
Max. Trailer Weight: 8,900

From the cover photo credits & directory listing, these folks seem to be very experienced with many rallies & caravans under their belts...

Shari

Matthew · 01-10-2003, 07:42 PM

It looks like an Expedition to me. Why are there no WBCCI numbers on the A/S?
-Matthew

Kistler · 01-10-2003, 07:56 PM

Thou art astute....the operative word is "seem/s"......what can I say ....

Kistler

John · 01-10-2003, 07:59 PM

Shari,

I met a couple in BC who are fulltiming in their 2001 34' A/S and they tow it with a Yukon.

5.7L
3:73

And they said it handles it with no problems. Seemed a little too small for that size of a trailer, but hey that's what makes life great, we all see things differently!

I'd say it's an Expedition.

John

68 Overlander · 01-10-2003, 08:18 PM

No doubt that is an Expedition. My 34' max weight is just that...8900lbs and although I tow it with an F250 diesel, I see no problem towing it with the Expedition other then I would prefer more buffer if it were me. When these companies set a max tow limit, they are just that and if kept at or under that weight along with proper weight distr. equipment, brake controller, inflated tires and common sense, they 'should' tow safely. They wouldn't list it as such if it wasn't capable or they would spend too much time in court. I would be willing to bet though that he is slowing up traffic trying to climb that hill and begging his wife to let him buy a diesel!
Randy

InsideOut · 01-10-2003, 08:25 PM

Quote:

Why are there no WBCCI numbers on the A/S?

I noticed that too...which is why I looked for the photo credit. In my opinion, the photo appears to be "burned out or highlighted" where the numbers would be. However, if you look at the photo credits (page 2), the trailer owners are listed both by number & name, as well as noting they were on an Alaskan Caravan when the photo was taken.

Further curiousity caused me to look them up in the directory, which is coded with the numerous national caravans they have been on...

Shari

Matthew · 01-10-2003, 08:37 PM

Shari,
I thought the same thing, that they had been airbrushed out of the photo or something but then they were listed with their numbers inside the cover credits. Odd.
-Matthew

Pahaska · 01-10-2003, 09:34 PM

I just looked at the cover credits for the first time. The 3rd couple listed, Ardell and Martha Mayton are members of our unit.

We were in the middle of my first WBCCI rally in Seguin, TX in about September when they drove in. They had just an hour before rolled in from Alaska, from the very trip where that photo must have been taken, dropped their trailer at home, and came out to the rally.

They are quite active in our WBCCI unit and were co-hosts at our latest rally.

flyfshr · 01-11-2003, 09:18 AM

why would they airbrush out the WBCCI numbers and leave in the vehicle's license plate? and turn around and give you the WBCCI numbers in the credits? Strange, very strange.

Brad