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Old 08-02-2010, 05:27 PM   #15
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why is THIS THREAD in the 'a/s in the news forums'...?

it's NOT about a/s, it's not about thor, it's not about jackson center...

this forum USED to be moderated so that CONTENT was specific to the title...

"a/s in the news"

this thread SHOULD be moved to OFFFffff topic where all the others LIKE it are buried.
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the KILLING is old stuff, so now there's ABOUT to be a legal action, maybe.

yes the rv part and the wally lot part is of interest to many of us but...

PREDICTING some corporate wide PARKING change based on this is silly...

it's like predicting the weather in paris france, by LOOKING OUTSIDE...

in paris texas.
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wallyworld doesn't 'allow' overnight parking out of simple kindness, it's GOOD for business.

many overnighters spend MORE in the stores than they might otherwise, IF told to leave.

while some local govs RESTRICT parking lot activity or zone away overnighting,

that's NOT common outside of URBAN/suburban/metro zones...
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unfortunately PEOPLE are killed, kidnapped, raped, assulated, robbed or car jacked...

in parking lots ALL OVER america now, and many of them are shopping malls or other retail/commercial lots.

some have ADDED more cameras and surveillance, some have altered entry/egress or added lighting.

MANY now have 'security' of some sort, tooling around in the parking lots.

in almost all examples, the 'security' folks used are from private contractors

and INSTRUCTED not to intervene in ANY criminal actions...

but in no examples have the shopping/commercial enterprises developed policy to TURN AWAY customers...

and most people in rvz are customers.
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THIS is not the first time someone has been killed in a w/b parking lot

and it's not the first customer (victim) to file against them.

it's also not the first or only time "problem folks" have been the ISSUE in their parking lots.
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this legal action IF it goes forward will result in settlement...

and at some point,

w/m MIGHT advise/policy store managers to CALL THE POLICE

on some specific basis, when customers report problems in the parking lots...

but keep in mind THAT PREDICTION is from somewhere near paris...

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Old 08-02-2010, 05:50 PM   #16
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why is THIS THREAD in the 'a/s in the news forums'...?

it's NOT about a/s, it's not about thor, it's not about jackson center...

this forum USED to be moderated so that CONTENT was specific to the title...

"a/s in the news"
_____________

the KILLING is old stuff, so now there's ABOUT to be a legal action, maybe.

yes the rv part and the wally lot part is of interest to many of us but...

PREDICTING some corporate wide PARKING change based on this is silly...

it's like predicting the weather in paris france, by LOOKING OUTSIDE...

in paris texas.
______________

wallyworld doesn't 'allow' overnight parking out of simple kindness, it's GOOD for business.

many overnighters spend MORE in the stores than they might otherwise, IF told to leave.

while some local govs RESTRICT parking lot activity or zone away overnighting,

that's NOT common outside of URBAN/suburban/metro zones...
__________

unfortunately PEOPLE are killed, kidnapped, raped, assulated, robbed or car jacked...

in parking lots ALL OVER america now, and many of them are shopping malls or other retail/commercial lots.

some have ADDED more cameras and surveillance, some have altered entry/egress or added lighting.

MANY now have 'security' of some sort, tooling around in the parking lots.

in almost all examples, the 'security' folks used are from private contractors

and INSTRUCTED not to intervene in ANY criminal actions...

but in no examples have the shopping/commercial enterprises developed policy to TURN AWAY customers...

and most people in rvz are customers.
__________

this legal action IF it goes forward will result in settlement...

and at some point,

w/m MIGHT advice store managers to CALL THE POLICE when customers report problems in the parking lots...

but keep in mind THAT PREDICTION is from somewhere near paris...

cheers
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2air', I think the Coneheads were from France too! Ed
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2air', I think the Coneheads were from France too! Ed



and enjoyed dining on aubergine (from the sam's club in remulak)

while the shuttle was parked overnight in the lot.

don't b afraid of da'eggplants...

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Old 08-02-2010, 07:14 PM   #18
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I don't normally chime in on subjects like this, but couldn't stop myself. I hear of folks petrified to boondock. Me, I am petrified to go into the average Wally World, and can think of almost no place that I wouldn't rather attempt to spend the night. They tend to be in economically disadvantaged neighborhoods. If they are 24 hours, then I certainly am not going to get the sort of rest I would like due to the business activity. If not, I still don't like sitting out overnight as such a target. I don't full time. I use my airstream for recreation. Sleeping in the parking lot is about as far apart from recreation as I can imagine. If I need to sleep, because I am "traveling through" then I will, 1) find a rest stop, 2) negotiate with an RV park, 3) rent a Hotel room for the night. If I am at my destination, it is never Walmart.

Now the folks suing Wally World, Wally provided them a service for free. You should be entitled to sue them for what you paid them. If they were inside actually conducting business of some sort it would be a very different matter. I sort of view it as the RV was trespassing and Wally just ignored it. I am sure the courts will find this different, oh well.
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Hi, Last year or was it the year before? In St. George, Utah there were signs stating [in the Wal-mart parking lot] "No overnight parking" so we hit the road. We have never spent the night in a Wal-Mart parking lot; The two that we planned on staying at, both had signs. We asked at a third Wal-Mart and they said maybe it's OK, but there were too many strange looking people hanging out in the parking lot so we left there too.
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And my wife can't figure out why I keep a gun in the trailer...
Mine knows!

While we've never boondocked at a Wally World we understand that some Super Wally's have 24 hr security, for what that's worth. Always check in with a manager. Even then, you need to be your own security advocate no matter if it's SWW, a national park, a state park or in the boonies where the grizzly bears and big cats roam. Oh my oh my.
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Old 08-02-2010, 08:46 PM   #21
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RV'ers in Walmart Parking Lot Kill INTRUDER
yea, my bad, i saw that after i hit 'post' but by then it was too late and required a moderator to approve, i was hoping they'd catch that, my bad.

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why is THIS THREAD in the 'a/s in the news forums'...?
yea, you're right, its not really AS, but its not really off topic either...

i guess i always think of off topic as .. you know, telling you about how yesterday i got a ticket for driving in the 'rain' (BARELY a drizzle, and when he was done writing the tkt it was not raining) without my lights on...
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This isn't going to stop me from camping at Wal-Mart or any other big parking lot store. The situation depicted at the beginning of this thread could have happened anywhere.

I live in the middle of nowhere. The crime rate here is so low it's in the negative numbers. BUT, do I leave my doors unlocked at night? No.

I overnight at Wal-Mart if it's mid-trip. I don't leave my door unlocked, I don't leave the truck unlocked, I don't unhitch from the truck. I would go to campgrounds if more campgrounds offered a reduced-rate bare-bones hookup site for overnight, transient travelers. Wal-Marts and other mega-marts are all over the place and they let you park for free. Can a whacked-out drunk, high, or just plain PO'd wack-o decide he/she wants to bust into your camper and hurt you? Yup. It has nothing to do with Wal-Mart, Airstream or anything else. The same thing could happen at a campground. The same could happen at my home. Why publicize here that camping at Wally World is all of a sudden a dangerous thing to do? I'll be the first to shop somewhere else than Wal-Mart because of corporate strangling, but if they will let me park for free, I'll take advantage. It's not Wal-Mart's fault these people got attacked. It's the fault of the person that attacked them.
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Walmart has, in my opinon, treated the RV community very well - - It's not their business to protect us --
But - - - I have stayed at some without concern but I'm always armed. If I were to sue a business - - I guess I would not pick the strongerst company in the country.

Just want to say thenk you Walmart for the times I have stayed overnight in your parking lots.
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And my wife can't figure out why I keep a gun in the trailer...
She doesn't like wrestling over guns with intruders?
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Thank You Wal-Mart

Open Note to Wal-Mart,

Thanks for the overnight policy and trust in your customers in allowing the RV community to use your parking lots.

We have used your overnight facilities infrequently, but the knowledge that in the event we do need to use them "in-transit" offers us comfort.

The "errors" either party in this case cannot and should not be construed to reflect the broad store communities or the RV community.

Many Thanks... T&M
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Well said, Pop Rivet & moymew........I agree.
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And, insofar as relevant thread content is concerned, viewing a few posts from "the journey" will sure to enlighten.
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And, insofar as relevant thread content is concerned, viewing a few posts from "the journey" will sure to enlighten.

I'm utterly sick of anti American Press
Good Job I say, that there are some of us in England who
enjoy coming to America
and embrace the lovely company of the American People
The Airstream has helped friendships blossom and long may it continue
there is really no harm, I do not understand your objections
and why you are on my tail
Even after your harsh post on the thread, some time back,I invited you to be my friend and you accepted
but here you are trying to encourage comments, which,unless I am being too sensitive,are designed to upset
we have fun on our thread, and all I say is, if you don't want to join in the fun, that's fine, but please try to resist pouring
vinegar over what we are enjoying
The Forums are about friendship as well as maintaining an Airstream
[which Hans is doing by the way behind the scenes and could not
continue without the help of the decent people on our thread]
There are other threads of the same vein i.e. pleasant banter,You could have a pop at Silver Sisters, they appear to be enjoying themselves, and hurrah for them
Kind regards as usual
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