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Old 06-13-2007, 11:21 PM   #29
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.... It's just not cheap.
Or easy...
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Old 06-14-2007, 07:40 AM   #30
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Or easy...
Speaking of which, did you ever get your wastewater issues taken care of in your Ambassador?
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Old 06-14-2007, 09:00 AM   #31
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........but now have vintage camping vibe, light weight, major coolness, polished shell, but with 2006 conveniences.
My point being, you actually can have your cake and eat it, too. It's just not cheap.
I agree 100%. I'm still waiting for someone to tell me what features a new rig has that my nearly 40 year old one does not. Further, once you get the refurbishment done (no small task to be sure), I want some to explain to me how they are less trustworthy in day to day use.

In terms of the orginal question I dont think the condition of the trailer is germaine (assumption of money not being an object). If you start from the premise of comparing well maintained units, I say what you are really comparing at the end of the day is asthetics.
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Old 06-14-2007, 09:09 AM   #32
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I agree 100%. I'm still waiting for someone to tell me what features a new rig has that my nearly 40 year old one does not.
A new rig will have a warranty, which in Airstream's case seems to be a big benefit.
New Airstream trailers have reliable automatic switchover refrigerators, new water heaters with little red switches inside to turn them on and off, electric tongue jacks, BAL levelers, ZipDee awnings, efficient air conditioners and furnaces, microwave, fantastic fans, working windows and door locks, 3 tanks, new plumbing, new running gear, more space since they're wider, more weight, comprehensive electrical system, usually no bad odors or floor rot.
I am not saying any of this is better than the vintage, just trying to answer your question.
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Old 06-14-2007, 09:17 AM   #33
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Wow,

very impressed with the level of responses. I find everyones responses quite interesting. I love our vintage unit and the fact that it is older than my wife and I is a real point of hilarity with our kids. As a lover of wood though, I go with vintage and the conveniences that I am used to can be just as easily found on the vintage. But, after many months of restoration, and down to a few more things before polishing, I almost had 2nd doubts.
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Old 06-14-2007, 10:10 AM   #34
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Vintage - less cash outlay up front, but as much or more over time
Modern - more cash outlay up front, over time . . . the jury's out

Vintage - the cool factor, a blast from the past
Modern - the cool factor, the future is now

Vintage - modern conveniences while camping anywhere
Modern - modern conveniences with current technology while camping anywhere

Vintage - it's always something
Modern - it's always something, warranty or not

It all depends on individual needs, resources, perferences, and priorities. I won't deny the lure of a graywater tank and few updates has turned my eye more than once. Even so, I wouldn't trade my vintage Airstream for anything, not even a brand new 75th Anniversary Edition. What other RV could continue to satisfy such a diverse population of discriminating taste? We have it all.
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Old 06-14-2007, 11:06 AM   #35
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A new rig will have a warranty, which in Airstream's case seems to be a big benefit.
New Airstream trailers have reliable automatic switchover refrigerators, new water heaters with little red switches inside to turn them on and off, electric tongue jacks, BAL levelers, ZipDee awnings, efficient air conditioners and furnaces, microwave, fantastic fans, working windows and door locks, 3 tanks, new plumbing, new running gear, more space since they're wider, more weight, comprehensive electrical system, usually no bad odors or floor rot.
I am not saying any of this is better than the vintage, just trying to answer your question.
My point is, that with restoration, a vintage unit will have many if not most of these items.
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Old 06-14-2007, 11:13 AM   #36
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I'm still waiting for someone to tell me what features a new rig has that my nearly 40 year old one does not.
I have both a new and a vintage rig so can answer the question -- a gray tank. A gray tank is the only thing I miss when I take my '64 Bambi II on a camping trip. We like to boondoock and stay green (i.e., not drip gray water into the environment) so we don't take the Bambi II boondocking much.

When we restore our '54 Flying Cloud, we are planning on taking this into consideration and will be retrofitting a gray tank into that trailer.
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Old 06-14-2007, 11:15 AM   #37
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I have both a new and a vintage rig so can answer the question -- a gray tank.
Again, I argue that a restored vintage unit is likely to have this.
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Old 06-14-2007, 12:01 PM   #38
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Again, I argue that a restored vintage unit is likely to have this.
Not necessarily. Retrofitting a gray tank is a major task that many resto's don't undertake. I think we may have to "agree to disagree" unless someone can show evidence beyond just our opinions.
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Old 06-14-2007, 12:32 PM   #39
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Hello All,

was just wondering, price being no object and time unlimited would a person want to purchase a vintage AS or a modern one? Does anyone out there own 2 or more AS where one is vintage and the other modern? I find it incredible how very little has changed over the last 40 years and just wondering what some of you very friendly people thought as we are now considering the purchase of an 06 Safari 25FB to add to our collection. Scary thought, some collect cars, sports cards, etc., I want to collect trailers...




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I think you ask a question but you know the reply...
New or vintage... it's in fact , a question of mentality... Only you know your mentality if you want to own the last model or a vintage one...
If the question of price is not considered ( so it's not a small details...) you know if you prefer to live in a new, modern, update or last fashion style or if you prefer all vintage things, 60's , collectible or old fashion style...
About me, that is this last kind of life I prefer... I live with old pin ball, old GE fridge, old juke box, ... and i love this vintage atmosphere.
No doubt fo me , a vintage is my choice and the buying price allows me to continue buying old toys...

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Since we've been in the KOA for a month now I've had a chance to see ALL kinds of Airstreams. Brand new ones, Argosys, vintage AS, and a few AS motorhomes. I could post a sighting at least every other day! I have to say that I would still pick my vintage AS over any of the new ones I've seen. I love my airstream just like it is! If I had the money to but a new one, I'd still buy the vintage because I love the classic lines.
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Old 06-14-2007, 03:08 PM   #41
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Not necessarily. Retrofitting a gray tank is a major task that many resto's don't undertake. I think we may have to "agree to disagree" unless someone can show evidence beyond just our opinions.
That's because the frame of the oldies are not made to handle the weight and torque of a grey water tank. Light weight and no grey tank or heavy with grey tank. Pick one - unless very customised, you don't get both.
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I redid our 63, and it had modern 2 way auto switchover fridge, power tongue jack, BAL stabilizers, auto switchover LP system, working windows and door locks, modern water system, Fantastic Fan, modern water heater, etc. It's all about if you want an older-looking trailer that can be retrofitted with modern stuff, or a modern trailer that just has to be used, and maintained. Again, with money no object, I want a lighter weight trailer, they are easier to pull.
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