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Old 08-13-2008, 12:06 PM   #1
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Up the mountain, half-tanked.

We have a 1970, 27' International which we are using as a "cabin" on our property on Anarchist Mountain in BC.

Just a question about holding tanks.

It would appear that we only have one that mixes both the gray and blackwater.

We are thinking about getting a 24 gallon holding tank. Should we be worried about shower/sink water filling it up in short order?

Also is there a way to divert output from the toilet directly to the portable holding tank, so we do not have our gray and blackwater mix together?

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PS, we are using porta potties on site for when nature calls.
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Old 08-13-2008, 12:10 PM   #2
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Your holding tank is for your black water only, grey water should not go into it at all. It is direct-to-toilet, and should be almost impossible to combine without a huge mess. A portable tote would be good for the grey water.
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Ditto to Terry's statement. Some later '73 Airstreams had gray tanks but they weren't universally in Airstreams until the '74 model year.
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All water comes out 1 pipe in the bumper, hence our confusion, if you do dishes it runs out there, and if you use the loo, same pipe...? We just got it within the past year and this is our 1st summer, so we don't know the history
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All water comes out 1 pipe in the bumper, hence our confusion, if you do dishes it runs out there, and if you use the loo, same pipe...? We just got it within the past year and this is our 1st summer, so we don't know the history
How it should work:
You should have a dump valve in a compartment directly above the rear bumper compartment. If you open it, you should see the valve toward the street side of the compartment (nearest the toilet). If you shove the handle down, it should (if it still works) seal off the black tank. You would dump the black tank when it gets full. The grey water just pours out of the pipe, with no holding tank. If you really, really want some kind of system to keep the grey water in, you can get a valve to attach to where the sewer cap is, and open it when you need to dump the grey water. Doing this will only net you a couple gallons' grey water storage. Water will start to back up in the bathtub drain when full.
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Old 08-13-2008, 12:41 PM   #6
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Welcome from another North Vancouverite. If you use natural soaps with no phosphates, I suppose you could dig yourself a small catch basin in which to dump your grey water. If you are more energetic for you property, you could have a ceptic field built. Do you have anything like a garden that needs water? You could save the grey water in barrels and use it for irrigation.
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Old 08-13-2008, 03:05 PM   #7
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I have a 1971 31 footer it did not come with a grey water tank. I had a 1973 overlander, I thought that 1 did but now I forget. I did put a small 10 gallon stainless tank in the rear bumper, I had to extend it 6 inches or so. I only use it when there are alot of people around , otherwise I drain under the camper (grey water only) Black water is done at dump station. I might also add a great way to clean the black water tank before storage or trip is after I dump it I then fill it with a few gallons of water and 1 big bag of ice cubes. I breaks up debri then turns to water.
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Thats a good lookin unit Kiah, Thought I would add
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How it should work:
You should have a dump valve in a compartment directly above the rear bumper compartment. If you open it, you should see the valve toward the street side of the compartment (nearest the toilet). If you shove the handle down, it should (if it still works) seal off the black tank. You would dump the black tank when it gets full. The grey water just pours out of the pipe, with no holding tank. If you really, really want some kind of system to keep the grey water in, you can get a valve to attach to where the sewer cap is, and open it when you need to dump the grey water. Doing this will only net you a couple gallons' grey water storage. Water will start to back up in the bathtub drain when full.
If you cap the discharge and open the black water tank valve the gray water then backs into the black tank, which cuts down on you black water capacity. I often did this on my 68 when I didn't want to dump gray water. I would then close the black water valve and remove the cap to dump a little gray water. I would attach my dump hose then dump the black tank with the gray water in it. I had a cap which had hose connection on which I fitted a valve to dump the gray water between the capped discharge and the black tank valve which I closed before dumping so as not to have a big gush of water when I removed the cap to connect the dump hose. Are you now confused?

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Are you now confused?
I'm not. It would work, I just wouldn't want to run the risk of overfilling things while showering, and have the black tank contents come washing ashore while I'm standing in it...
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Thank everyone, poor Jim figured out the black water tank today *the hard way*he'll be needing a new pair of shoes...lol. We were thinking everything came out the pipe so we were not using the toilet, but turns out the posts here were correct and the grey water just runs out if the cap is off and black water is stored until released.
We wil just let the grey water run off and use the portable tank to dump the black water if we need to, until we can get the septic field done next year.

Much appreciated!!
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buy a 4 wheeled tote and as big as you can stand to. You could also run a hose with fine holes out the yard and trickle the grey water out that way.
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Just found the OP's trailer on craigslist...$25,000
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yes? is one not permitted to sell an airstream??
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