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08-30-2008, 05:47 PM
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2007 25' Safari FB SE
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Twin beds vs 'queen' - Experiences?
Hi,
DH and I are narrowing our search. We like the 25' Safari/Flying Cloud FB SE. We are having a hard time deciding between the twin beds - 3" longer, 4" wider than the 'queen' bed.
DH is 6'2" and his toes are over the end of the bed on the queen. DH thinks he likes the queen (probably because he's a bed hog) because he has more room to roll over.
Can anyone share their experiences with both? Do you have to stand in the kitchen to change your clothes with the queen bed?
Thanks
TK
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08-30-2008, 06:05 PM
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We bought our Lucy ('05 25FB) new off the dealer's lot. She had come with the queen bed so that's what we got. I have often thought that the twin beds might be better, but we really like the queen. We have pretty extensive experience with this sleeping arrangement. We have spent almost 300 nights in Lucy and have towed her over 33,000 miles. When Lucy was new we bought a 2" memory foam mattress topper from Camping world. I like Lucy's bed better than our one at home. We don't have any trouble getting dressed in the bedroom.
This being said, If we were to order a new 25FB today, I would really have to think about which bed configuration I would order.
Good luck in your choice.
Brian
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08-30-2008, 07:04 PM
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We have the twins in our (older) trailer. We've had doubles in other trailers, and what seems to happen is we roll over each other, or have to crawl over each other. In hot temps, the twins are better, as you are further apart, and less heat concentrated in one spot (the bed).
Besides that, I have to sleep in a bed by myself, so I prefer twins.
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08-30-2008, 07:33 PM
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The queen isn't big enough for sleeping, but the twins limit the ability to wallow all over a big bed, watching TV or reading or
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08-30-2008, 07:39 PM
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4 Rivet Member
2007 25' Safari FB SE
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You all are bringing up everything we've thought about
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08-30-2008, 07:45 PM
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Originally Posted by tksbaskets
You all are bringing up everything we've thought about
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Umm, putting this as delicately as possible... I'm not sure if you have kids, but if you do, there really is no opportunity to use a queen bed when camping...
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08-30-2008, 07:54 PM
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hi tk...
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Originally Posted by tksbaskets
...Do you have to stand in the kitchen to change your clothes with the queen bed?...
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no.
u can go outside to change like i do...
or just not wear clothes INSIDE the trailer at all...
there is a long thread back a while on the virtues of twins vs island bedding.
try 'advanced search' with queen or twin (NOT BOTH) as the term, limit search to TITLES only ...
about 30 threads will pop up to start ya...
-some of the issues with twins... cold walls, wall condensation, no partner warming feature.
-some of the issues with island beds...less isle space, a tad less storage, and bed/blanket hogs...
standard sheets don't fit perfectly on either but standard queen bedding is pretty close.
i like the rear truck/under island bed storage better on the queens
but many like the 2 compartments that come with twins better.
another issue is "firmness' since many use a topper for mattress improvements on either arrangement.
post some pictures while u are changing clothes and we'll be able to give u better advice
if you look, it's obvious that lots of folks try converting twins to a queen, or the other way around too...
cheers
2air'
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08-30-2008, 07:55 PM
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4 Rivet Member
2007 25' Safari FB SE
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Quote:
Originally Posted by overlander63
Umm, putting this as delicately as possible... I'm not sure if you have kids, but if you do, there really is no opportunity to use a queen bed when camping...
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Too funny!! Our twins are 17 1/2 and camping currently in a pop-up. You are correct my friend
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08-30-2008, 11:14 PM
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4 Rivet Member
2008 27' International CCD FB
Mill Valley
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Quote:
Originally Posted by moosetags
We bought our Lucy ('05 25FB) new off the dealer's lot. She had come with the queen bed so that's what we got. I have often thought that the twin beds might be better, but we really like the queen.
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Same with us when we purchased our 27FB.
If I were to "order" one today I would get the twin config.
I think the "bedroom" could be used as a very functional sitting area...like having two sofas facing each other.
Dennis
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08-31-2008, 12:29 AM
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2005 25' Safari
Salem
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Queen or Twins?
Quote:
Originally Posted by tksbaskets
Hi,
DH and I are narrowing our search. We like the 25' Safari/Flying Cloud FB SE. We are having a hard time deciding between the twin beds - 3" longer, 4" wider than the 'queen' bed.
DH is 6'2" and his toes are over the end of the bed on the queen. DH thinks he likes the queen (probably because he's a bed hog) because he has more room to roll over.
Can anyone share their experiences with both? Do you have to stand in the kitchen to change your clothes with the queen bed?
Thanks
TK
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Hi, we have the Queen bed in our 25' Safari and have some close friends who have the Twins in their 25' Safari and I guess we are equally happy with our choices. My wife and I are still close to each other and have a Queen at home too. [2 Queens, wife and bed] So let me answer your question with a question; Do you have separate beds at home or are you cozy together in one bed?
Getting dressed inside of trailer; Wife always in bedroom and I have used both the bedroom and living room, but never in the kitchen. Hope this answers your questions.
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08-31-2008, 01:06 AM
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2008 25' Safari
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we like the queen
Hi TK,
We have a 25FB with the queen bed and we like it a lot. At home we have a king size tempurpedic mattress, but find the queen plenty roomy and surprisingly comfy. Although, when camping we only share the bed with one cat, vs several at home
When I camp alone, I feel less lonely in the queen than I think I would with an empty twin across from me.
DH is 6'1". I originally thought I would put a piece of foam or something similar between the head of the bed and the wall, under the pillows, to extend the bed a few inches, but we haven't found it necessary. That might be something that would work for you.
One thing though, is the sideways layout of the 25FB. DH doesn't mind crawling onto the bed from the foot, being careful not to bang his head on the overhead storage bins, but I wouldn't like it. As he gets older that will be a lot less fun. Also, making the bed is annoying for the same reason. It only looks like there is space to walk around the bed!
The 27FB bed layout is much easier for both partners to get in and out of, looks easier to make the bed, and affords more closet and pantry space.
We have no problem getting dressed in the bedroom. We have a 15yo son who camps with us. It is easy to close either the bedroom "door" or the one just before the kitchen (if showering) and there is plenty of space.
Spend time in the units under consideration. Sit, lie down, hang out, go through the motions of cooking, daily living, bathing, etc. Get a feel for how it will fit you and the way you live.
Then go camping and have fun!
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08-31-2008, 01:13 AM
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2012 25' FB Eddie Bauer
Vintage Kin Owner
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I have the queen in my 25 FB SE - when I get the 27, I'm getting twins. The Dinette is "big enough" when put into bed configuration to do a lot more than lie around watching TV.
I fulltime, and I think the twins will give me more and easier access to inside storage, and will allow me more workspace for my sewing hobby.
Making the beds - gotta be easier with twins, especially in a 25 where it's sideways - AND there really isn't a lot of footroom on the wall side.
Paula
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08-31-2008, 06:27 AM
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Originally Posted by Foiled Again
I fulltime, and I think the twins will give me more and easier access to inside storage, and will allow me more workspace for my sewing hobby.
Paula
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Paula, are you going to remove one of the mattresses and use that area for a sewing table?
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08-31-2008, 07:09 AM
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4 Rivet Member
2007 25' Safari FB SE
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Thank your for all your thoughts and questions. We sleep in a queen at home. Big considerations being that this AS will cost more than our first house.
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08-31-2008, 07:37 AM
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2006 25' Safari FB SE
St. Cloud
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TK - good to go to the Forums for ideas (she asked me what I liked about our twins last month).
Ma & Pa should make the choice best for them as a first priority. The side benefit of our twins is going with buddies on fishing trips to Ontario... Smith River in Montana... In that case I just don't want to repeat that 'cute' situation from the movie Planes, Trains & Automobiles with John Candy:
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[waking up after sharing the same bed on the motel]
Neal: Del... Why did you kiss my ear?
Del: Why are you holding my hand?
Neal: [frowns] Where's your other hand?
Del: Between two pillows...
Neal: Those aren't pillows!
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08-31-2008, 09:17 AM
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2006 25' Safari
Tyler
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Twin vs Queen
We ordered our 2006 25ft Safari at the Dallas RV show and we found the twins (by measuring) to have more room all around. Sadly, after only two years, I'm searching for the perfect deal on 7-8 inch custom foam that I can afford, to replace the torture racks that are stock with Airstream because my wife is miserable for the first two nights out sleeping as the beds have broken down quickly. I'm finding I am twisting and tossing more to maintain comfort too. The odd shape in the corner doesn't bother sleep in our case, no cold wall, just make certain that you buy deep pocket fitted sheets and we bought two pairs of little boy suspenders to kind of cinch them tight. Mattress pads, mattress toppers, also help. Aside from that there is wonderful storage both inside and out with the twin rear configeration, we are both bigger than we want to be and working on that but no problems dressing in the space between the beds. We sleep on a king size select comfort at home so we are set up quite differently when away. Don't misunderstand...we love our coach. Once I replace the mattresses it's gonna be wonderful!!
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08-31-2008, 10:29 AM
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2007 23' International CCD
Lapeer
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Not much to add here as so many great points have been covered. We have the center queen bed now and had twins before. I like them both very much. I don't know which I actually prefer. There are tradeoffs with any configuration.
In the twin bed I had a problem of where to fling and stretch my arms out as the night stand and curvature seemed to dictate range of motion. We took care of the cold walls of cold weather camping by getting heated mattress pads that can run on electric or 12 volt. The easily accessable and ample storage was great and elongating the hallway and having a day use area and spacious dressing room was great as is the wide exterior storage door and compartment. The night stand can be very useful to place a lamp or whatever. If it weren't for the nightstand you could slide the twins together at night and replace that with a fold-down table for day use?
The queen is a real luxury of space to use and to take up walk room permanently. It has the bonus of having a center window for viewing (hopefully out ) and ventilation at your head. The room feels spacious without the extra overhead cabinetry at the end of the twins and over the window and gives you a better place to put a tv monitor. You can hide stuff on either side and visitors wont see it from the front of the coach. Or you can use that space to secure extra or bulky things easily for travel without stopping you from getting to the bed on the road. You can change your orientation for sleeping to sideways or head to foot. You can sleep two adults and two dogs and a cat together, but do you really want to? The pets seem to like a center bed for looking down the hall and out the window.
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08-31-2008, 11:43 AM
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Bottom line.....
If you're still in the "cuddle mode", go queen.
One of the benefits of the twin is that if you go "stream'n" with other then your partner, you can let your guest use one of the twins, and you still get to use your own bed.
R/
rick
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08-31-2008, 01:50 PM
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1999 27' Safari
Kent
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I have twins. I would rather have a queen, or king. My A/S has a rear bath. I would jump at the chance to get a rear bedroom A/S. ( Privacy)
It stinks looking across the isle at the better half. My feet are at the bottom and my head is at the top currently. The front couch has a seem right where I sleep and I get hung in it. So that doesnt work either for us.
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08-31-2008, 04:18 PM
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We sleep in a King at home so twins fit us to a tee.
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