Truth or consequences

[85MH325]

That's not a bad idea, but in practice the mods... I know you guys are going to find this statement hard to believe... the mods aren't all-knowing or omnicient! Stuff slides by. Even if it's reported, the mods don't have the time nor resources to check some of the really technical stuff. The disclaimer is that you use any of the ideas presented here at your own risk. It really has to be up to the consumer to verify the safety or appropriateness of anything they may want to try on their own.

To someone with a warehouse, a complete auto mechanic's shop, a welder, a complete metal and machine shop, and a complete cabinet making shop, and the time and knowledge to use all of it, a frame-off restoration may be described as "easy". However someone who has never held a hand tool and lives in an apartment probably shouldn't undertake it, even if the first guy says "it's piece of cake, I did it in a month in my spare time."

With the proper tools and skills (like... ahem... uh... Boatdoc? ) It IS easy (ok... maybe NOT easy, but do-able...). The apartment dweller probably ought not try it in his living room though... hence the dillema for staff here, and the need for each one of us to verify for ourselves what is appropriate.

Roger

[overlander63]

Originally Posted by boatdoc

I believe that obviously dangerous advice should be monitored by moderators and deleted at their discretion. After all, hurting one's feelings is a safer choice than allowing someone to get seriously hurt.

We try not to monitor content, although if I find something blatantly stupid being offered up as advice, I will post something right below it, with a more appropriate course of action suggested. There have been too many censorship-themed threads to ask for even more by changing posts around.

[Fyrzowt]

A well thought out response that points out the folly of an ill advised idea, will make it clear to the majority what the proper course of action should be. Those that don't get it, or refuse to heed just cleanse the gene pool.
Hmm, did that sound harsh....?
Dave

On edit: these folks also keep me employed.

[safari57]

Originally Posted by mistral blue

Voila my *beep*!

I remember this picture! It's me after I was leaning over my carb and it backfired. I still have a small scar on the back of my head from when I tried to jump back. I do remember how quickly the decision was made to remove what was left of my beard so people wouldn't ask me why half of it was frizzied up and the rest gone. The missing eyebrows were a little harder to explain but they came back fairly quickly. If it had happened only once I could say lesson learned but sadly...............I can be a slow learner at times.

Barry

[mistral blue]

Originally Posted by safari57

If it had happened only once I could say lesson learned but sadly...............I can be a slow learner at times.
Barry

I know the feeling ...

[balrgn]

Originally Posted by overlander63

We try not to monitor content, although if I find something blatantly stupid being offered up as advice, I will post something right below it, with a more appropriate course of action suggested. There have been too many censorship-themed threads to ask for even more by changing posts around.

Rather tha get caught in a debate, I sometimes PM.

The dark side is very strong Luke

[boatdoc]

Originally Posted by 85MH325

That's not a bad idea, but in practice the mods... I know you guys are going to find this statement hard to believe... the mods aren't all-knowing or omnicient! Stuff slides by. Even if it's reported, the mods don't have the time nor resources to check some of the really technical stuff. The disclaimer is that you use any of the ideas presented here at your own risk. It really has to be up to the consumer to verify the safety or appropriateness of anything they may want to try on their own.

To someone with a warehouse, a complete auto mechanic's shop, a welder, a complete metal and machine shop, and a complete cabinet making shop, and the time and knowledge to use all of it, a frame-off restoration may be described as "easy". However someone who has never held a hand tool and lives in an apartment probably shouldn't undertake it, even if the first guy says "it's piece of cake, I did it in a month in my spare time."

With the proper tools and skills (like... ahem... uh... Boatdoc? ) It IS easy (ok... maybe NOT easy, but do-able...). The apartment dweller probably ought not try it in his living room though... hence the dillema for staff here, and the need for each one of us to verify for ourselves what is appropriate.

Roger

Hi Roger; I believe that I am being misunderstood. It is the common sense of the individual that must decide what he/she is capable of understanding or doing. In order to do something you must first understand it, then consider your limitations. It should be quite obvious to everyone that I, "just did not walk into a ready for me shop". It took a lifetime to build it up with tools and equipment. When a new piece of equipment was purchased, I either knew how to use it, or had to learn. The learning part of this is a reflection of lifetime spent using it. It is very important for the individual that he/she does not follow anyones advice unless they understand it and have the knowledge and the capability to carry out particular task. At times, even that falls short of expected results. Long ago I knew a man who built a truly beautifully wooden motorboat in his basement, but he had no lake down there, and it was too big to get it out. Therefore unless one fully understands entire undertaking, one needs to either ask more questions, or get someone else to do it.

We cannot monitor what people will try to do. I think that all of us should be very careful giving advise, unless we are capable of explaining the process in simple Lyman's terms because we do not know the level of the recipients capabilities. I do not reply to posts which I do not know much about, for a simple reason. That reason is lack of knowledge on the subject, while others will post anything just to make a post. So if the bum advice may hurt someone, let's not worry about one's ego and correct the post with a reply presenting it as another safer and simpler way of doing it. From here we can do only one thing, leave it to the recipients decision. But most of all we should refrain from making "I believe" suggestions. Thank you, "Boatdoc"