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Old 09-30-2014, 08:47 AM   #15
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I understand the principal of running the gas tank and carb. dry; but I have also been told to fill the tank,add "Stabil" or such and run the engine to get the mixture through it and than top off the tank. This would keep rust and water for forming in the tank. Which is best/right? I follow the "keep full" method
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Probably the right way to go about it unless you have a plastic tank.

Also some engine oil to coat the cylinders/pistons/rings.

I think the store full theory applies to boats where a full tank won't allow for condensation to build.

The Yamaha manual actually says to drain for long term storage.
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I understand the principal of running the gas tank and carb. dry; but I have also been told to fill the tank,add "Stabil" or such and run the engine to get the mixture through it and than top off the tank. This would keep rust and water for forming in the tank. Which is best/right? I follow the "keep full" method
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My opinion is that for storage at home, storing it full with stabilizer added is entirely adequate, as long as the storage period is three months or less. But for transport in a moving vehicle, dry is the way to go, no matter how long or short a time it will be carried.

But that's just an opinion. There is no such thing as a definitive "only one right way" to do it.
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Old 09-30-2014, 08:56 AM   #17
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Have you tried riding around with your Yamaha Genny inside with you?

I carry my 2800 Yamaha, full of gas, in my PU bed sealed with a hard tonneau cover and I don't smell any gasolene when I open up the tailgate.

Maybe it's not as bad as you think.
He doesn't have a pickup-he has a Sequoia-genny will be inside, not outside.
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Old 09-30-2014, 09:14 AM   #18
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I read somewhere recently that if we use premium gas in our small engines it doesn't have the issue of going stale and fouling the small machines. Don't know if this it a fact myself but maybe someone here can confirm this. It would make my life a bit easier if it was that simple.
Unleaded gas goes bad. To last a long time in storage, it must have a stabilizer of some sort mixed in it.

Leaded gas didn't go bad for a long time. Fixed Base Operators (FBOs) at airports that sell car gas for light planes will quite often add 10% 100 LL (100 octane low lead, which has about 4 times the lead that automobile gas used to have before the unleaded thing.) to their tank of car gas to keep it fresh.

I have a 100 gallon tank in my barn that I keep filled with gas for lawn mowers, trimmers, motorcycles, and anything else that does not have a cat. converter.

I go out to the local airport and buy 10 gallons of 100 LL and add it to the 90 gallons of regular unleaded gas that the gas truck brings me. That mixture will last for many years. BTW leaded gas is very good for small engines.

Incidently, premium gas is not necessarily better than regular gas. Premium gas does not have the BTUs of regular gas, and in really cold weather or high altitude may not run well at all in an engine designed for regular gas.
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Old 09-30-2014, 10:40 AM   #19
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I use this lidded container for my Honda EU2000i:

Amazon.com - Rubbermaid 1172 ActionPacker Storage Box, 24 Gallon - Lidded Home Storage Bins
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securing the generator to keep it from moving or tipping would be nice.
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Airrogant, thanks for the link. Jim
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How does everyone carry extra gas for these small generators or do you refill them by siphoning gas from the tow vehicle. I wouldn't want to travel with a gas can in an enclosed vehicle like the original poster's Sequoia.

Another option is to convert your generator run on propane. Before I had my AS I had a Casita and a 4Runner. I was thinking of buying a Honda generator but I didn't want to carry extra gas in the 4Runner so I looked into propane conversions. I carried a 5lb propane tank for my BBQ and campstove in the 4Runner an didn't have any issues with fumes. The Yamaha can be converted.

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How does everyone carry extra gas for these small generators or do you refill them by siphoning gas from the tow vehicle. I wouldn't want to travel with a gas can in an enclosed vehicle like the original poster's Sequoia.

Another option is to convert your generator run on propane. Before I had my AS I had a Casita and a 4Runner. I was thinking of buying a Honda generator but I didn't want to carry extra gas in the 4Runner so I looked into propane conversions. I carried a 5lb propane tank for my BBQ and campstove in the 4Runner an didn't have any issues with fumes. The Yamaha can be converted.

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Yes, you can buy conversion kits and aren't that complicated to install. They are actually tri-fuel kits that allow the generator to run gas, natural gas or propane. Super handy.
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See comments on portable fuel tanks, generator tips, etc., in this related thread:

http://www.airforums.com/forums/f37/...ml#post1461891
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Hi, I carried my Yamaha 2400 inside of my trailer and never got any gas fumes from it. Draining the tank will never remove the fumes in it so this would be of no help. I would never put a gas generator in a plastic bag; You'll be looking for static electric. [BOOM] I carry my gas can on my trailer tongue.
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Draining the tank will never remove the fumes in it so this would be of no help.
Draining the tank isn't to prevent fumes; it's to prevent spills.
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Hi, I carried my Yamaha 2400 inside of my trailer and never got any gas fumes from it. Draining the tank will never remove the fumes in it so this would be of no help. I would never put a gas generator in a plastic bag; You'll be looking for static electric. [BOOM] I carry my gas can on my trailer tongue.
I used to carry my 2400 inside with no fumes either.

Now I carry a Honda 1000, run dry. It just fits in one of the outside storage bins. I've only needed to use it once, and that was for a friend's camper, not mine.


Running it dry will eliminate fumes. Maybe not immediately, but once it all dries out it will.
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Running it dry will eliminate fumes. Maybe not immediately, but once it all dries out it will.
Hi, from my experience this is not true. Once in High School auto shop, a kid brought in an old intake manifold that was sitting in the dirt for years. For some reason he put a lit torch to it and flames shot out of every open hole. When I worked at a Lincoln Mercury dealer in the 70's I had to fix a small leak in a Mark IV gas tank. I removed the empty tank, washed it out twice and steam cleaned it twice. Clean as a whistle. Be fore attempting to solder the tiny hole up, I passed the torch passed the filler tube and got a final flame out; Now it was safe to work on / solder with a torch.
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