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Old 03-21-2003, 10:41 PM   #15
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I guess you don't know how dumb you are until you start asking questions! There aren't many A/S's on Vancouver Island - maybe because there isn't much of a market. The one I'm looking at has two singles at the back.

I saw an A/S less than 2 hours from my place, remarkable. It had mostly everything I wanted -- except the full size queen bed. It had the "twins" in the back. That in itself was not acceptable to me, while mostly everything else was. I ended up traveling for 15 hours to get mine.

The skylight windows sound really neat, wish I had them. Though I hear they introduce some problems, like fogging up.

Yes, upholstery can be replaced. I too hate carpets, all carpets. Too much maintenance. Will eventually install wood floor.

Only you know what this unit is worth to you. In good shape, it should be worth at least the asking price. There is some correlation but age doesn't matter, condition does.

I looked at 15 units until I realized what I wanted, the decision-making process is agonizing. It will become obvious if it was right only some time after you get it. Decide what's acceptable and what's not.
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Old 03-21-2003, 11:02 PM   #16
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The existence of this site is enough to give me the courage to buy an A/S. I spent some time in the one I have mentioned- I felt right in it - we suit each other. Its all the curves...

I'm just trying to be 'practical'. Ask all the questions my Dad would want me to ask. I know it will end in an emotional decision for me...but at least I'll know that I asked all the questions.
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Old 03-21-2003, 11:06 PM   #17
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Ha ha! Lucky for me, I don't have a husband...so I don't have to worry about him wanting out of the 'tin can'!

Yeah, well maybe you can find one who fulfills this criterion. A great way to weed out the ones who are incompatible.

(i.e. 99% of them)


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Hey ipso, put me down for two dozen!! Kinda reminds me of when 70's models Corvettes were a dime a dozen, late 60's Mustangs, etc, etc, get my drift? What a slam!! (especially coming from a non-owner)


Sure they are. When they cost only 10% of the price of the new ones? Damn good deal. The new ones depreciate more than that in the first year. My truck is the same thing, costs 10% of what a new Ford 1-ton costs. It is old enough to not depreciate anymore. But the engine is new and I am happy.

Enjoy your frugality, $-wise, you are coming out way ahead of the average person. In fact, after 5 years of owning it you can sell it for parts and still come out ahead. Wish I had thought of that years ago, when I was paying almost $10,000 in rent annually.
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Old 03-21-2003, 11:24 PM   #18
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The existence of this site is enough to give me the courage to buy an A/S. I spent some time in the one I have mentioned- I felt right in it - we suit each other. Its all the curves...

Sounds like you already reached your decision and now are trying to get a confirmation, a validation of your decision. If you like it, get it! If the owners took good care of it, it is a good deal. Don't mean to imply that 70's are *never* good deals.
Just be selective.
An extra $1000 plus or minus won't make that much difference considering how much they cost new. Make sure you get the essentials that you want. Other things you can compromise on.

I'm just trying to be 'practical'. Ask all the questions my Dad would want me to ask. I know it will end in an emotional decision for me...but at least I'll know that I asked all the questions

Originally I started looking at generic RVs (SOBs). Only fairly recently I realized I wanted an A/S. Once I did that, it took me months to realize exactly what I wanted. Sizes, floor plans. Then it took me a while to find it.
If it makes you feel any better, I think the one you are looking at is a better buy than a 3-year old SOB, more cost-effective, better value for your money.

I made my decision the same "emotional" way, based mainly on the fact that it had the right bed in the rear. Weird, but I felt comfortable. You will never get 100% of what you want, get the vital things.

I decided that it's cosmetic condition wasn't that important to me. I.e. clear-coat and upholstery and carpet. I don't spend all of my time cleaning anyway. But I knew that mechanically it had to be very good, everything running, all appliances working. With these criteria, I was looking for mine. With perfect clear-coat and upholstery I could have paid $5K more but it wasn't worth it to me (while it would be to others) The clear-coat on mine needs partial replacement, the upholstery is very good but not perfect, the carpet same way. I could have done better - but I could have done worse.

I was, however, scared of something like the water pump quitting on me or windows leaking or something else like that, which wasn't acceptable. Mechanical failures are not good at all.

You do have a towing vehicle, right?

Does it come with a hitch?
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Old 03-21-2003, 11:46 PM   #19
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as the old saying goes you dont find the airstream
the airstream finds you.
it sounds like the airstream has found a new and hopefuly a better owner.
good luck on your quest and welcome to the forum
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Old 03-22-2003, 02:03 AM   #20
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My 9 cents

It is all very subjective as I see it. But at 31 with a steady job I would take the chance. Offer the owner 3900 and work up to say 4450 or what ever max you can abide. What kind of tax at sale and yearly in Canada might be a consideration as well.

Do you have a place to keep it? Will you have to pay rental for a keeping place? If you are a renter and subject to have to move you might want to think twice. Unless of course you have the tow capability to just hook and go.
My ideal would be a covered (not necessarily enclosed) and paved (prefer concrete) slab, where I could raise my 31footer and use a creeper to easily work underneath for months at a time. Another ideal would be to have enough slab on the side for placement of a scaffold. And I would build a saddle for the roof. i.e. making the trailer water tight and acessing the belly for rust repair and tank work and assorted checkout would be my first priorities. Interior work to be interspersed at same time for a change of pace.
Many of the tasks ahead will require a helper or alot of patience or both. It is a long road and only you know your burn out capacity. The hardest "project" to wash your hands of is one that is started in many areas but complete in none.
I made a similar purchase and often wonder why.
My decision was finally made because of two zip dee awnings which I figured to be worth about 1000 dollars each.
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Old 03-22-2003, 04:01 AM   #21
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You're very lucky as, you've noted ..to have found this forum.
Not only are you among some of the nicest people but, the education value alone contained within will get you thru just about any project you might under take. THIS PLACE IS TEEMING WITH WILD IDEAS~!
It was over 6 yrs ago when I first rekindled the A/S flames from my childhood. (I used to see waves of Gyspies passing by driving those huge 50's Cat and their A/S in tow.)
I searched all over the internet before buying my first one..Only to sell it 45 min later..lol(made a nice profit on it) Then, purchased the one I currently own from the PO in TX.
My unit is 84 Sovereign, 29ft with center bath and twin rear.
For comparison. Paid 10k. Since then, I've put very close to that in it just fixing "things"..All of which could've been 'delayed' or not done at all.
Always ask questions, for the only 'dumb question is the one you didn't ask. And, don't be afraid to post some in return as well~!!
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Old 03-22-2003, 07:18 AM   #22
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I bought my 1972 31' Excella 500 in 1995 and I was about 29. I did two years of fulltiming when I bought it and tweaked it as I went. My friends thought I had falled off the deep end, however I really loved the trailer and the experience. I still have it and continue to work on it and add upgrades to it. I would DEFINATELY go for it. I wish I had found this forum when I was learning how to polish and upgrade. Good Luck and have fun!

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Old 03-22-2003, 09:08 AM   #23
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Old 03-22-2003, 09:42 AM   #24
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We had a spirited discussion on the topic of buying somewhat new or new vs. old and restoring.

In the end your taste and wallet will dictate what is your best bet.

To me that trailer needing as much as it does need, seems a bit high in $$ to me. I could be off here. But given all that you mentioned, minus what you haven't found yet, I'd say the trailer might be worth less money. How much less, I can't comment. But I would try to get it for less if you love it as you do, but don't charge into it with you heart only or your wallet, if it is not limitless could see some hurt.

Just my .02

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Old 03-22-2003, 09:51 AM   #25
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Check out this link. It might be helpful.

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Old 03-22-2003, 12:56 PM   #26
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I think I am starting to understand...it not only takes courage, but a great sense of humor too! I keep cracking up while reading these postings...I hope the laughter comes as easy when I'm curled fetal- overwhelmed by the adventure!

High point in the decision- I have found a place to park the A/S - a beautiful RV Campground right on a lake...and only 2 miles from my work (right downtown). The owners are great- he's a builder/contracter, she is an artist/welder. Only 65 sites (16 year-round). Everything included for $200 US. Gravel/No cover. But I get to have a fire pit...that makes me most happy. Closest thing to owning my own 'back 40' that I can find.

So, as it stands now- I'm buying an A/S. I am on my way out to find more to look at. If I do end up with the forementioned...I will score a better price.

Hey- thanks for the welcome! It's nice to know I'm not the only one...A
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If possibe, get a picture posted of the site you got! It sounds awesome!

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This sounds like a great deal. Even electric? Great, because you can then use electric heaters in the winter and save on LP.
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