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Old 11-18-2014, 01:59 PM   #71
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Yep. Consider others. Don't be self-absorbed. Obey the rules. Give space.
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Old 11-18-2014, 03:11 PM   #72
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And don't cut line...

One of my pet peeves when a lane is lost or a lot of cars are heading for a single exit.


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Old 11-19-2014, 01:53 PM   #73
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That's right. The merge sign was a mile back. Move over and get in line like everyone else. Don't zoom ahead of everyone to the front of the line and bully your way in, causing a chain reaction of brake lights.
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Old 11-19-2014, 02:22 PM   #74
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This is a question for everyone. If there were a fine of 2500.00 and points against your record and possible loss of driving privaliges would you still talk on your phone without a hands free device?
Most of the studies show that handsfree devices don't enhance safety to any significant degree. It is the conversation that distracts. The requirement to use a handsfree device was introduced by the mobile device industry as a plausible alternative to banning phone use entirely. It is a safer way of driving in the same sense that Salem Lights are a safer cigarette.

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I am thankful that you had the good sense to use a truck that is tough enough to keep your combination is safe without brakes or WD. The legislature where you live must be particularly insightful to have included exceptions to the requirement for trailer brakes into the statutes, for drivers of trucks that are tough enough.
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Old 11-19-2014, 02:33 PM   #75
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Most of the studies show that handsfree devices don't enhance safety to any significant degree. It is the conversation that distracts.
I have always felt that to be the case. Many years ago when cell phones were not that common, I had one in a company 4x4 that I had for attending derailments & such.

Even though it was set up for handsfree operation, I know I would get so engrossed in my conversation that sometimes, even on a route that I knew very well, I would miss my turn and go miles in the wrong direction before realizing things did not look familiar!

There is something about a phone conversation that seems to be much more distracting than talking to someone in the passenger seat. No idea why that is but I do think it is so

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Old 11-19-2014, 08:47 PM   #76
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[QUOTE=Jammer;1543060]Most of the studies show that handsfree devices don't enhance safety to any significant degree. It is the conversation that distracts. The requirement to use a handsfree device was introduced by the mobile device industry as a plausible alternative to banning phone use entirely. It is a safer way of driving in the same sense that Salem Lights are a safer cigarette.

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So you and your passenger ride down the road in complete silence? If not you are a distracted driver also so I guess all conversations in vehicles should be banned because it is the " conversation that distracts".
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Old 11-19-2014, 11:13 PM   #77
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You have $1 in 'concentration' in your brain... when driving alone, on a 'good day', you might use almost all of that $1 on 'driving'. Things go well...

In conversations you are really trying to comprehend, your brain slowly takes a penny of your 'concentration' a little at a time to help work the 'conversation task'. Eventually, one of the tasks suffers... either the conversation or the driving... one has inherently more significant risk.

Similar to 'piloting' an airplane.. there are tasks such as navigation which demand an amount of concentration... add to that 'traffic', weather, complex systems, fatigue, etc.. and the pilot finds him/her self 'behind' the task queue.... or 'behind the airplane'... One instructor put it like this... "You are so far behind the airplane, you won't die until a week after they clean up the crash site."

If auto crashes were investigated as sincerely as aviation, we might have a 'safer' road system... nah.... never happen.

Memories of tired / distracted driving.. and surviving without hurting anyone are enough 'wake up' for me to realize... it isn't worth it...

The other day we were headed to the Wurstfest Rally... gathering all the bits before we shoved off, we got really agitated because we were 'late' according to our 'schedule' and we had misplaced some items we wanted to load prior to departure. When I started to pull away, something did not 'feel right'... so, I stopped the rig, paused for a few seconds.. looked at my bride, said a little prayer... took a couple deep breaths, then carried on... just that small 'respite' to refocus, like when engaged in mortal combat on the roads... it just makes sense.. it works for me...
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Old 11-20-2014, 12:22 AM   #78
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Yup. Humans are flat not that good at multitasking. Its been proven time and time again. If you need time to think, stop, set the brakes in a safe area, and then do the thinking. Its not mortal combat to go camping somewhere...

Concentrating on driving is essential to surviving that experience. Conversations, phone calls, music on the radio, barking dogs, etc all have to be filtered out to do driving right.

We don't drive to a schedule, per se...we get there when we get there. Usually are the last to pull in, and the last to leave around checkout time in the morning. Still get plenty of sleep and eat well on the road. We're on vacation, so schedule is driven more by the tummies of the doggies and the humans, in that order, than the clock.

I try not to plan more than 200-300 miles a day where possible. It might take me all day to make that distance--browsing in Cracker Barrel's Old Country Store after a meal usually blows the so-called schedule anyway. No rush. I love the 'Flying Pig' statues and stuff we picked up last trip.

We usually make sure late arrival is covered at the campground--and I'm very good at setting up quietly in the dark...I've had campgrounds call me on the road concerned about our whereabouts when it got late and started to get dark...love the concern, but we're still on the way...just running a bit late as usual.
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Driving time is for driving, not doing other things. Fact is, driving at highway speed a person can be one second away from being dead at any given time.

If a person keeps this in the back of their mind, the distractions we might want to partake in while driving will seem a lot less important.




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Old 11-20-2014, 01:01 AM   #80
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I am betting that I am not the only person who has been driving undistracted at highway speed and even in the undistracted state barely manage to stop in time when traffic comes to an abrupt halt...

Driving time is for driving, not for yaking on the phone or checking Facebook.


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Old 11-20-2014, 02:08 AM   #81
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The Europeans did not put coffee cup holders in for years. The job was to drive, not eat and drink.

We learned that here in the UK, one is not supposed to drink coffee (or soda or water) or eat while driving. In fact, neither was the passenger crowd either.

The placement of the GPS is important as well for keeping your attention on the road. It is smart that most companies require a stopped vehicle to make changes.

My preferred speed is between 62 and 65 when that speed is allowed as that is the engine's peak torque spot in 6th gear. However, some secondary highways are rough or undulate enough that the posted 55 may be too fast for the rig.

My greatest concern where we live in the Phoenix area are the youth that think they are invincible and weave in out out of traffic barely missing folks to gain 5 seconds or the motorcyclists doing similar activity. (I have ridden my Gold Wing in all but the Northeast of the US (yes Mexico as well) and found that 65 to 70 was more appropriate than the legal 80 in Texas as one could not see the scenery at the higher speed!
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Old 11-20-2014, 06:12 AM   #82
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55-65 is fast enough for me in Texas even without the trailer. Forget the 70 mph speed limit on 2 lane roads. 75 and 80 speed limit on the highway is useless to me. I'll never go that fast.
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Not too long ago i was driving with my wife down a two lane road with no one visible in the rear view mirror. A woman in a mini van with passengers came pulling up to a side road ahead on our right, made direct eye contact with me and pulled right out in front of us turning to her right. As she smugly stared me down during her entire right hand turn, and i hit the brakes hard, she failed to notice a brand new cadillac had come to almost a complete stop just ahead in our lane. So as she flipped me the bird with her eyes she promptly rear ended the new caddy....(no one was hurt)... But as we slowly pulled around the mishap i made sure to roll down the passenger window so my wife and I could smile politely as we passed...wife and I said to each other at the exact same time...." There IS a GOD"
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Old 11-20-2014, 07:04 AM   #84
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Most people in Texas exceed the speed limit by about 5MPH, no matter the posted speed limit. I only do that without the trailer.
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