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Old 09-19-2004, 09:12 PM   #15
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Anyone ever try to find this one? Or know where it is... if it still exists? Love the history thing too!

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Old 09-19-2004, 09:22 PM   #16
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Anyone ever try to find this one? Or know where it is... if it still exists? Love the history thing too!

http://www.airstream.net/images/torpedo.jpg

Dr. H.W. Holman (The man pictured) has passed is my understanding. He built that coach from Plans Wally was selling in the 30's. Dr. Holmans'd son has the coach and it does show up at ralleys from time to time.
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Old 09-19-2004, 09:36 PM   #17
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Dr. Holman's Airstream

The Holman's Airstream is quite a gem, and I have had the opportunity to see it at every WBCCI International Rally that I have attended. In fact, Dr. Holman gave a presentaion on the history of his coach at one of the International Rallys. I believe that the elder Dr. Holman passed away about three years ago, and since that time his son has been bringing the coach to the International Rallys. The photo below is of both Dr. Holman and his son (his son is also a Dr.) at the WBCCI International in Dayton, OH in 1999 - - I believe that this was the rally where the elder Dr. Holman made the presentation that was so memorable.



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Old 05-13-2010, 10:37 AM   #18
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Six years later...

Came across this eBay auction for two authentic photos taken of JFK at White Sands. The description says they were taken of him on June 5th, 1963 during a 2 hour and 19 minute visit. It goes on to say that the Airstream - in the background of the shot I attached - was used as his temporary office during the visit.

The model is a "Trade Wind", though if there were other trailers in the area it wouldn't mean this was necessarily the one set up for JFK's use during the short visit.
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Nice work finding the history on this, Brad! Very interesting. OBTW: we recently spent several nights at White Sands... incredible place to boondock!
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Old 06-06-2010, 09:16 AM   #20
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Do your Airstreams now glow at night after the White Sands visit?
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Airstream Trailers- JFK - White Sands New Mexcio

I've been searching for a place to document JFK's visit to White Sands New Mexico and the use of Airstream Trailers in the early 1960s.

At the time of JFK's visit to White Sands, JFK used WBCC trailer No. 5767 as the temporary White House. This trailer was a 30' model (I don't remember the model name). This trailer was owned by my parents Harold and Margaret Armstrong. I was present at the time JFK used the trailer and was inside at the time with my parents. We spoke with him for several minutes before being asked to leave by the Secret Service so JFK could take a phone call. At that time I was about 9 years old.

The trailer my parents purchased came from the factory in California. I think that factory has been closed for quite some time.


Other trailers at this event (I don't have the trailer numbers) were owned by Kelton and Mable Clark, Capt. Falby, Col. Ed Shank and one or two other owners whose names I don't recall. If someone has WBCC directory from the early 1960s, I could identify the other names once I heard them.
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Hi John, thanks so much for stopping in to shed some light on this very old discussion!

So the first question to pop into my head after reading your wonderfully informative post is:

Does ole' No. 5767 still exist?

If so, it is certainly the only Airstream ever to have been used as the portable White House... unofficial as that term may be. Regardless, it does add a whole new twist to the term OVAL office!
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Old 08-29-2010, 09:29 PM   #23
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Sorry for the long delay in responding to your post. I am trying to research my folks old 5767 WBCCI number to see if someone still has that number on their trailer. I would certainly like to buy the number since it is very sentimental to me and would like to place upon the Airstream I am planning to purchase.
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Old 07-15-2012, 06:57 PM   #25
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Those numbers are issued to folks who join the WBCCI and upon joining you can request a specific number if no one else currently is using it. There is some turn over in numbers and so you will need to contact the wbcci for info about this http://www.wbcci.org/
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Old 07-16-2012, 10:29 PM   #26
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I have heard back and I have pictures. Still waiting for the contact info for you Fred.
This is not the coach from the above picture. It's a Sovereign. Like the caption said, there was more then one coach used. So hopefully it can be documented that this is indeed one of the coaches used by JFK and LBJ. My guess is a local Airstream dealer supplied these coaches so hopefully somebody can confirm that as well.


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I've been searching for a place to document JFK's visit to White Sands New Mexico and the use of Airstream Trailers in the early 1960s.

At the time of JFK's visit to White Sands, JFK used WBCC trailer No. 5767 as the temporary White House. This trailer was a 30' model (I don't remember the model name). This trailer was owned by my parents Harold and Margaret Armstrong. I was present at the time JFK used the trailer and was inside at the time with my parents. We spoke with him for several minutes before being asked to leave by the Secret Service so JFK could take a phone call. At that time I was about 9 years old.

The trailer my parents purchased came from the factory in California. I think that factory has been closed for quite some time.


Other trailers at this event (I don't have the trailer numbers) were owned by Kelton and Mable Clark, Capt. Falby, Col. Ed Shank and one or two other owners whose names I don't recall. If someone has WBCC directory from the early 1960s, I could identify the other names once I heard them.
The trailer in the photos that bears number 5767 is a 1963 30' Sovereign and based upon certain details I can confirm that it was built in California, so that matches your memory. (and yes the California factory closed about 1980 or so).

The 1963 WBCCI Membership Directory list #5767 as H.E. and Margaret Armstrong of El Paso, TX. It also lists #5823 Kelton and Mabel Clark, also of El Paso, TX. And #5752 Allan and Doris Falby, also of El Paso, TX. And #4524 Edgar and Jean Shenk, also of El Paso, TX.

Given that the 1963 Membership Directory is 87 pages long and contains about 8000 memberships, give or take, a search for others from El Paso is not realistic, however I did find the President of the Paso Del Norte Chapter of the Texas Unit, who was from El Paso, TX, #2071 Forrest and Mytrle Cooper. That's all I can offer.

According to the 2012 Membership Directory, #5767 is currently unassigned unless it has been taken since that directory was published at the start of the year. If you get an Airstream and want to join the club, you should be able to request that number.

You have some fantastic memories. I wish you success in tracking down your parents Airstream with the JFK history.
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Wow!!!!!!!! Where did you find this photo? This trailer looks like the one my parents owned. I would certainly like to see if it is for sale and restore it to its old glory provided it is the same trailer. I'd have to see the inside or a floor plan to see if it is the same one. But, it certainly looks the the critter I remember as a child. If the serial number can be tied back to the old factory Airstream in California and to my parents name, that would definitely be it.

Can a name & address of current owners be provided in an email? I would certainly like to get this trailer than buy the one I am currently considering.
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The photos came from post #8 in this message thread dated September 2004. They were posted by a member named 59toaster from Atlanta, GA. There seem to have been no status updates since then.

Interestingly, post #1 in this thread says that the trailer was then located in New Mexico and was owned by the son of the original owners - possibly a relative of yours (if the provided information was correct)?:
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I may have just found it.
I just ran accross a guy that says his dad has it and it's still in NM. His grandparents are the original owners and they HAD a plaque that documented the JFK history but the plaque was stolen.
Posts #6 & #13 in this thread also provide a few other details that suggest that maybe it was not owned by the original family in 2004 after all:
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Good question. Unfortunatly I believe the original owner has passed and that information may be lost. The wife (grandmother to the guy I am talking with) is alive and hopefully she will have some information. It's quite possible that they worked the White Sands facility. The people that own the coach live near it and have since that event.

Still waiting to hear back from him.
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I did find out more. The Coach came out of El Paso and the actual original owner was named Armstrong. He is not sure if the WBCCI numbers are from his Grandfather or Armstrong.

The fellow I am talking about has never seen the plaque that showed the JFK tie in. It apparently was stolen years ago. He actually said he had his doubts but I'm still hoping it can be proved.
Unfortunately, 59toaster has not logged on to this site since October 2011 and has not posted anything since May 2009. It doesn't seem that 59toaster frequents these forums anymore. The path has grown cold on this trailer.

Here is a link to 59toaster's profile page:
http://www.airforums.com/forums/memb...ster-1849.html

On that page you can find links to send an email or private message to 59toaster to see if you can get anymore information about the Airstream in the photos. That is likely your only way to try to locate the current owners of this Airstream.
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