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Old 08-03-2015, 09:54 PM   #15
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I replaced the last four feet of trailer frame and the last sheet of plywood in about a day. Another day to reattach the shell in the back, etc.

A few hours patching under the front windows, etc.

My frame was good except where the black tank had leaked.

It is not hard, and it does not take that long.

Dont get freaked out about things being rusted away till you look at it.
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Old 08-03-2015, 09:57 PM   #16
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Old 08-03-2015, 09:57 PM   #17
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if anyone as experience and can tell me how long
(hours) it took them to replace there subfloor, that would be awesome. are we talking 20h or 100h?
Definitely closer to 100 hours than 20! I replace the floor in our '74 Sovereign without removing the shell. Moving from back to front I removed the old floor, fabricated and welded outriggers and crossmembers as needed, painted with POR 15 and installed the new floor which was coated in epoxy. Dates on my photos show that I started in February and finished in the late fall, but that was 2009 so it's hard to remember specifically how long it took. I was working, have 4 kids and had lots of other projects going on.
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Old 08-03-2015, 10:03 PM   #18
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By doing what needed to be done, From purchase to first trip in about 4 months.

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Old 08-03-2015, 10:07 PM   #19
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Why replace all of the plywood if it is 90% good?
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Have you considered a composting toilet? We will be putting one in our 54 cruiser as well as the tankless water heater. We replace our entire subfloor "she'll on" it was more difficult than she'll off however we just didn't have the room for shell off. It can be done. It's all a matter of what shape your frame is in as I am sure you know. Good luck on your journey. There is just something wonderful about an airstream no matter what capacity you use it. Just make her beautiful!
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Didn't use to be able to buy eurostyle cassette toilets over here. Have to use a portopotty. There's a difference.
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Jonnyo. I have a 1958 Caravanner 22 foot. My plan for it is exactly 100% what you want
and is for sale in Nebraska and we could do some trading if you still have your aluminum wonder. New tires x 3, Bulldog hitch, electric jack, 3500 watt dual fuel key start generator on tongue, spare on bumper, bearings and brakes done, passage set and deadbolt new.
Have everything for inside or out side use: pots, pans, 9 blankets LED and kerosene lamps, one wood stove and 3 kerosene tent heaters , 18 refillable 1 pound propane bottles, turkey fryer set up for hot showers etc, 2 types Coleman stoves, 3 inflatable couches make to queens, 2 new 6 volt golf cart batteries, 2200 watt pure sine wave inverter, 100 % duty Viair 12v compressor and aluminum tank, trickle-20 amp-100 amp all types battery charger, 240 sq in Cuisinart grill, 2 1000 watt NuWave induction hot plates, 2 folding camp kitchens, 8,000 Btu a/c, 3.1 cu ft 2 door 1.6 amp draw frig, plan for ice chest cut plan using 2 each 4' x 8' x 2" foam panels, foldable Little Red Wagon, much much more.
CONCEPT: water in 1 gallon milk jugs, unique waste handling, etc, trade 20 # propane bottle when empty
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Old 08-04-2015, 03:22 PM   #23
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I know zero about whether you will need tanks or not.
I bought my first AS because it was less than you are looking at spending.

I thought you might find this thread interesting, it covers the rebuild and modification of a 32ft Excella for 7 kids and 2 adults.
Our 1986 32' Excella Rehab -- from rear bedroom to bunkhouse with two bedrooms -- airforums.com

I'm in the middle of tearing mine down to get rid of non-working appliances and remnants of the previous owner. I plan on keeping the tanks; stage 1 will be sealing it up, then get working black tank/toilet. And clear water/pump. The rest of the AS will be wide open for seating or storage.
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Didn't use to be able to buy eurostyle cassette toilets over here. Have to use a portopotty. There's a difference.
I had to import mine from UK. Its crazy....Thetford sell the parts here, but not the units; the units they only sell as OEM in the US.
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Didn't use to be able to buy eurostyle cassette toilets over here. Have to use a portopotty. There's a difference.
ok, i wasnt aware there was a difference? what exactly?

i saw a video of a euro airstream with the process of emptying the cassette toilet and i though it was clever system. But from what you are saying, portta potty isnt the same....
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US RV toilets are attached to water supply, flush like a domestic toilet and waste is collected via a waste gate in a black tank.

Porta Potti have a tank for water supply, manual flush, and waste is collected via a waste gate into a waste tank. Typically the size of the flush tank is sized to match the waste tank so every time you fill up you empty out. The nice thing about Porta Potti is they are totally portable and can be moved (we had a privacy cube inside our trailer for night time, and a privacy tent for day time, giving more space during the day).

Cassette toilets have plumbed water supplies like a regular toilet, flush like a regular toilet, waste is collected via a waste gate into a waste tank like a regular toilet.....the only difference is the waste tank is designed to be pulled from outside (they are a form of SmartTote) and taken to the dump station.

It is more of a continuum from one to the next, but you can see the details on the Thetford Europe website (Thetford Toilets)
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