Visit our Popular Forums

Sacerdote · 03-22-2010, 04:34 PM

Newbie needing education. What are the differences here? It seems each has similar sizes in the 16-23' range. Is it the build out quality? Extras? I know this must me in some archive but so many forums not sure where to look.

**moosetags** · 03-22-2010, 04:44 PM

First off, welcome to the Forums. We're glad to have you with us./

The Sport is the Chevrolet.

The Flying Cloud is the Buick.

The International is the Cadillac.

I think that the build quality is comparable. The difference is in the features and upgrades.

Brian

Sacerdote · 03-22-2010, 05:04 PM

Thanks Brian. Very nice and simple reply and I appreciate it. I just asked another simple first question on a Toyota forum about the tow vehicle I just purched and was insulted by some "senior" member because it was too basic.
It is refreshing to have such a gracious answer. Thanks. I think I will like this forum.

osolow · 03-22-2010, 05:07 PM

whats your T/V question those are always good threads here!

osolow · 03-22-2010, 05:09 PM

and what are you looking for in a Trailer ?

personally i would love to have a internacional ocean breeze.

Sacerdote · 03-22-2010, 05:12 PM

I got the answer. It had to do with bed liners. I am going with Line X spray on liner. Thanks again.

Sacerdote · 03-22-2010, 05:14 PM

Osolow

Just starting to look and educate myself. Something in the 20' range I think but still learning the models and layouts. Much to take in.

osolow · 03-22-2010, 05:35 PM

yep I know what your going throw, it was hard to find and decide on are first one.

know aim trying to talk the wife into a 19ft er but it's down to what happens when we

get a chance to go look and try one out.

i got a similar bedliner you wont be disappointed well worth the money.

cosmotini · 03-22-2010, 06:05 PM

The 17' and 22' Sports are 7' 3.25" wide while the other models are 8' wide. Curiously, the 16' sport is listed as 8' wide.

THEPILL · 03-22-2010, 06:51 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by moosetags

First off, welcome to the Forums. We're glad to have you with us./

The Sport is the Chevrolet.

The Flying Cloud is the Buick.

The International is the Cadillac.

I think that the build quality is comparable. The difference is in the features and upgrades.

Brian

Why cant it be:

The Sport is the Ford.

The Flying Cloud is the Lincoln.

The International is the Bentley.

Shane

osolow · 03-22-2010, 07:03 PM

because it would go ford mercury then Lincoln

THEPILL · 03-22-2010, 07:07 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by osolow

because it would go ford mercury then Lincoln

Well technically speaking the Ford and Mercury are the same class.

Just say'n

Shane

dkottum · 03-22-2010, 07:16 PM

Check out the specifications for each. Luxury comes with weight penalty,

and you need a stronger horse to move it down the road.

JFScheck · 03-22-2010, 08:55 PM

BUT - you get some different options and features.....

My "Classic" vs the same size "Flying Cloud"

Disc brakes vs Drum brakes
Solid Wood vs Veneer
Corian vs Laminate
Porcelain vs Plastic

So - the weight might be a little more (my 25 footer Classic weighs 457 pounds more than the Flying Cloud - but I think for the components its a penalty worth every pound) but the tongue may be less (my tongue weight is 780lbs empty vice the Flying Cloud tounge weight of 837lbs empty)

Finding such a good deal on the "Classic" made that the trailer of choice for me (the lower tongue weight was major bonus as was the disc brakes) - an extra 457 pounds is water weight for me and I'm fine with that...

It's all about what you need in a trailer - for me I found my best match and willing take the extra few pounds of weight...

Jammer · 03-22-2010, 08:57 PM

Analogies aside it has mainly to do with the interior buildout and to a lesser extent with the standard features that are included. If you look at them at a dealer or in the 360 interior view on airstream.com you'll get the idea.

osolow · 03-24-2010, 06:43 PM

so have you made a decision on a trailer ?

DreamStreamr · 03-24-2010, 07:02 PM

Is the International really heavier than the Flying Cloud? The brochure I have lists the gvwr as identical for both in the 19' model and in the 25FB model. The Classic 25FB is 700 pounds heavier than either the Flying Cloud or the International.

A few years ago an odd difference showed up between the Safaris (now Flying Clouds) and the Internationals. The Internationals have heat strips in the A/C with temperature controls on the roof unit panel, and a $2/ wall-mounted thermostat for the furnace. The Safari has heat pump with electronic thermostat integrated for furnace and air conditioning.

Which one sounds like the Cadillac feature? Jackson Center is just not perfectly consistent is all I'm suggesting -- what a surprise. Still, we love our International and would definitely choose the same one again if we could.

Jim

THEPILL · 03-24-2010, 07:03 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by DreamStreamr

Is the International really heavier than the Flying Cloud? The brochure I have lists the gvwr as identical for both in the 19' model and in the 25FB model. The Classic 25FB is 700 pounds heavier than either the Flying Cloud or the International.

A few years ago an odd difference showed up between the Safaris (now Flying Clouds) and the Internationals. The Internationals have heat strips in the A/C with temperature controls on the roof unit panel, and a $2/ wall-mounted thermostat for the furnace. The Safari has heat pump with electronic thermostat integrated for furnace and air conditioning.

Which one sounds like the Cadillac feature? Jackson Center is just not perfectly consistent is all I'm suggesting -- what a surprise. Still, we love our International and would definitely choose the same one again if we could.

Jim

+1

BTW, my 2010 International has a heat Pump with the wall thermostat.
SHane

Sacerdote · 03-24-2010, 07:21 PM

Thanks all. Lots of looking to do at the real thing. Unfortunatly the dealer here only has one Flying Cloud. Not much to compare to. Will just have to start looking at ones for sale and perhaps visit a "Big" dealer in Florida to scope em all out.

DreamStreamr · 03-24-2010, 07:33 PM

Sacerdote -- be careful what you look at!

We were only going to see if they had any trade-ins, like some reasonably road-worthy small 1970s or 1980s or something. You know, something in our budget and maybe we could tow it with one of the cars we then owned.

We ended up, two visits to the dealer later, buying a new 2005 CCD 22 International AND having to buy a really worn-out old F-150 (didn't have any more money by then) to tow it.

Really didn't see it coming, glad it happened, and a couple of years later sold it on the internet and bought the 25SS so we could full-time when we retired. And we did and we are, so it all worked out.

But what would have happened if we had found the 1979 Argosy Minuet 7.3 first, instead of last?

Have fun exploring, learning, and finding the one best suited for you now. Enjoy!

Jim