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Old 03-22-2010, 09:57 PM   #15
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Analogies aside it has mainly to do with the interior buildout and to a lesser extent with the standard features that are included. If you look at them at a dealer or in the 360 interior view on airstream.com you'll get the idea.
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Old 03-24-2010, 07:43 PM   #16
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so have you made a decision on a trailer ?
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Old 03-24-2010, 08:02 PM   #17
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Is the International really heavier than the Flying Cloud? The brochure I have lists the gvwr as identical for both in the 19' model and in the 25FB model. The Classic 25FB is 700 pounds heavier than either the Flying Cloud or the International.

A few years ago an odd difference showed up between the Safaris (now Flying Clouds) and the Internationals. The Internationals have heat strips in the A/C with temperature controls on the roof unit panel, and a $2/ wall-mounted thermostat for the furnace. The Safari has heat pump with electronic thermostat integrated for furnace and air conditioning.

Which one sounds like the Cadillac feature? Jackson Center is just not perfectly consistent is all I'm suggesting -- what a surprise. Still, we love our International and would definitely choose the same one again if we could.

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Old 03-24-2010, 08:03 PM   #18
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Is the International really heavier than the Flying Cloud? The brochure I have lists the gvwr as identical for both in the 19' model and in the 25FB model. The Classic 25FB is 700 pounds heavier than either the Flying Cloud or the International.

A few years ago an odd difference showed up between the Safaris (now Flying Clouds) and the Internationals. The Internationals have heat strips in the A/C with temperature controls on the roof unit panel, and a $2/ wall-mounted thermostat for the furnace. The Safari has heat pump with electronic thermostat integrated for furnace and air conditioning.

Which one sounds like the Cadillac feature? Jackson Center is just not perfectly consistent is all I'm suggesting -- what a surprise. Still, we love our International and would definitely choose the same one again if we could.

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BTW, my 2010 International has a heat Pump with the wall thermostat.
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Old 03-24-2010, 08:21 PM   #19
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Thanks all. Lots of looking to do at the real thing. Unfortunatly the dealer here only has one Flying Cloud. Not much to compare to. Will just have to start looking at ones for sale and perhaps visit a "Big" dealer in Florida to scope em all out.
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Sacerdote -- be careful what you look at!

We were only going to see if they had any trade-ins, like some reasonably road-worthy small 1970s or 1980s or something. You know, something in our budget and maybe we could tow it with one of the cars we then owned.

We ended up, two visits to the dealer later, buying a new 2005 CCD 22 International AND having to buy a really worn-out old F-150 (didn't have any more money by then) to tow it.

Really didn't see it coming, glad it happened, and a couple of years later sold it on the internet and bought the 25SS so we could full-time when we retired. And we did and we are, so it all worked out.

But what would have happened if we had found the 1979 Argosy Minuet 7.3 first, instead of last?

Have fun exploring, learning, and finding the one best suited for you now. Enjoy!

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Old 03-24-2010, 08:51 PM   #21
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I have a 06 Bambi 19' International and love it. I like the floor plan (only for two) and I love the design. It has an open feeling and it weighs a little less than the FC. When I was shopping I looked at everything and felt for the money and style I wanted the 19' CCD. It tows great and will fit anywhere. I have the solar and plan to do some boondocking. It's mostly for long weekends and one or two week long trips. If you plan to travel for weeks or months then a 23' or 25' would be better. As far as Airforums it's the BEST forum ever! Great nice people willing to help anytime. I bought mine on here and found an inspector on here as well. Welcome to the addiction!
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The Classic 25FB is 700 pounds heavier than either the Flying Cloud or the International.
Actually it's only a 457lbs difference - trust me as I'm one who keeps a tight eye on the weights...

Like to think the "Disc Brakes" will make up for that delta...
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As far as having Airstreams to look at, the two Florida dealers have many new Aistreams in stock, and are only 150 miles apart.

We have a 25FB, named Lucy. Lucy is a 2005 that we bought new in June of 2006. We have towed Lucy over 50,000 miles, and have camped almost 600 nights in her.

Lucy is our first RV, and our selection of a 25FB was based on our research and what we thought would work for us. We got really lucky when we selected the 25FB. Now that we are somewhat experienced, we realize that we made the right choice. The 25FB works very well for us for camping periods as long as nine weeks straight. If we were to but a new Airstream today, it would be another 25FB.

There are a number of features of the 25FB that we really like, and others that we would not want to do without.

- The 25FB is small enough to fit in about any campsite.

- It is light enough to be towed by a wide range of tow vehicle.

- Having the living area at the back of the trailer is a big plus. Every time that we have had a scenic view at a campsite, it has always been at the rear of the trailer.

- The walk around queen bed is a must.

- The separate living area and bedroom is a big plus for marital bliss.

- the two door refrigerator is a necessity for long term travel.

- The separate shower (not in the room with the toilet) is a really great feature that we would not want to do without.

I guess we just lucked out on our first try. We have heard of so many Airstreamers who buy one model, and quickly trade it in a different one.

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