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Old 07-27-2015, 12:55 AM   #29
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Every truck manufacturer has a table of towing capacities for each model, rear end ratio, and engine size. Pick your favorite truck and it will give you all your limits.

Also trailer hitch weight does not not add to total towing capacity requirements. It just tells you how much of your trailer weight is setting on your tow vehicle wheels and not the trailer wheels. It helps determines which model hitch you purchase. Eg. Reese 600 lb, 800 lb, or 1200 lb. From my experience more is not better. A 1200 lb hitch made my trailer ride like a bucking bronco on some cement highways. I now have a 600 lb hitch and my ride is much more sedate. And the dealer gets a a little less cash.

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Old 07-27-2015, 07:31 AM   #30
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Payload is the concern. How much does your motorcycle weight with fluids in it? I am sure you will haul more than the motorcycle in the bed of the truck?
Payload capacity. Then start subtracting everything that is loaded into the truck. Trailer Hitch weight, Passengers, camping gear, tools etc... It adds up quick..

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Old 07-27-2015, 07:41 AM   #31
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I agree with Gearheart. Buy more then you will need but not more then you can afford and you will not regret it.
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Old 07-27-2015, 03:37 PM   #32
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I have a 27 ft EB that I tow with my GMC 2500HD Diesel 4X4 and it is more that adequate. Up steep hills no problem but down steep hills I wish I had an exhaust brake to save on truck and trailer brakes but I get by just fine.
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Old 07-27-2015, 06:58 PM   #33
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I knew that you would get a lot of opinions, a gasser will gas you! My cummins gets 14 mpg and that's running at 70-80 with my 31' Sovereign behind it. If you are going to travel out west, a diesel is a must for the hills. Stay east and out of the great smokies, etc, a gasser will work. If you're going full time another must is a full size cab for hauling extra people going to dinner or going to the store for groceries. My Cummins gets 18-19 without a trailer behind it. Now mind you I have a Banks Engineering Stinger Plus system that is 12 years on the machine and still never see black smoke and I'm putting about 800 ft/lbs to the wheels.

Take it from a retired truck driver, never drove or owned a semi with a Mitsubishi or a Power Stroke in them. However besides a Cat, I always had a "hummin cummins" tried and true for billions of miles getting most of the products in your house by commercial vehicle. The cummins used is the smallest block used in a semi not an engine just for Dodge.

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Old 07-27-2015, 08:27 PM   #34
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I agree with what others have said... We have a 76 31' Excella 500.... We pull outs with a 09 Z71 Suburban - pushing 12.5K..... If I was bringing a 700lb bike I would be at a minimum a 350 diesel- maybe even a 1 1/2 ton 4500....
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Old 08-17-2015, 03:27 PM   #35
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You will not need anything over a 250. You are not pulling a 5th wheel. Airstreams are light and were pulled with cars in the 40's, 50's and maybe the 60's.
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Old 08-17-2015, 04:07 PM   #36
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Mass and Velocity gives you Momentum

There has been at least one situation that it was helpful that our truck out weighed our trailer. The fun part about this question is it is not what it will take to pull it but rather what will it take to stop it, especially under adverse conditions (rain, tractor-trailer passing, side wind, road hazard, etc.).

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Old 09-10-2015, 03:36 PM   #37
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Old 09-10-2015, 03:50 PM   #38
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We are thrilled with the comfort, ride, quietness, and performance of the 2015 GMC Sierra Denali HD (3/4 ton) with Duramax/Allison combo. And I'm sure we would be equally happy with the nearly identical twin Chevy Silverado LTZ 2500 with Duramax/Allison. These new trucks are nothing like the older 3/4 ton diesels; they are very quiet, very comfortable, wonderful riding... and a perfect match to the largest Airstreams. We like the truck so much that we decided to also use it as our daily driver. These trucks are impressive.

Our 2016 30' International Serenity is loaded with 2 AC units, awnings all around, and a lot of our stuff. And in the truck we carry a good amount of outdoor gear, including Honda EU2000i gen set, 5 gal. fuel container, BBQ, outdoor recliners, and a variety of camp-type gear. We also plan to add Camper Shell at some point with a kayak riding on top.

The 3/4 ton diesel trucks (regardless of brand) will handle this with ease.

There is little difference between a 3/4 ton and 1 ton truck (when similarly equipped) other than an extra leaf in the rear springs. The 3/4 tons will tend to ride nicer than the 1 ton. Either will serve you well. What you need to do is get out there and drive them, head-to-head.

Also, add up everything which you want/need that will be considered part of CARGO CAPACITY and compare than to the yellow sticker on the individual trucks that you are considering. This is one aspect of capacities that many people tend to overlook, and it is an important one. Study up on what cargo capacity means and how to determine your particular needs in this regard. Essentially that's the tongue weight of the trailer (assume 1100#, for starters with a 31' AS) then add the weights of all the people, animals, hitch, camper shell (or tonneau cover), generator(s), camp furniture, BBQ, tools, campfire wood(?), raft/kayak, small air compressor, whatever might be a part of your camping "kit of gear". When you have that total weight, compare the number to the manufacturer's stated cargo capacity (payload) listed inside the driver door jamb of the individual truck you are considering.

If considering a 1/2 ton, you may be quite surprised to find that the cargo capacities they have may not even come close to what you are likely to need. But the 3/4 ton and 1 ton trucks should cover your payload needs with ease.

In your search, be sure to drive the new Chevy Silverado 2500 Duramax/Allison and the GMC Sierra Denali HD Duramax/Allison. You may be quite surprised if you haven't experienced one of these yet, and you will no doubt be impressed!

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Old 09-10-2015, 04:14 PM   #39
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Truck size

You will want to measure the bike length and the bed of the truck you are looking at. I have a dodge 2500 crew cab with 8 ft bed and its been a great truck the only downside is parking in towns. I'm getting 13.75 to 15.5 MPG depends on area hills vs flatter areas. I had a ford 2004 diesel that started leaking oil from the rear main at 10000 miles that's how I ended up with a dodge cummins won't go back Ford kept me in line for repair for 6 months at which point I traded for dodge. Ford lost me forever for that. Good camping.
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Old 09-10-2015, 05:25 PM   #40
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Very happy with our HD2500 diesel towing our Classic 30. But I don't bring our bike with us on RV trips. I think if I did, I would be going with the 3500 as the bike weighs about 900#.

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Old 09-10-2015, 06:16 PM   #41
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Old 09-10-2015, 09:37 PM   #42
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3500/350 series, probably a long bed, since you have the motorcycle. If the motorcycle weren't in the mix 2500/250 or other options become available.

Towing isn't going to be an issue regardless. Never is with the wide variety of folks towing AS units from passenger cars to 350's.

The killer is always payload. Couple of folks and a cat with nothing else in the tow vehicle its time to ride. Vintage Harley Panhead in the truck bed along with tools to keep it running as a vintage plus the beer kegs for the biker rally, well then a 350/3500 might be the ticket...

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